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[–] Tolstoy@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are there any WhatsApp clients without all the crap noone asking for?

[–] chepox@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There soon will be because EUR turned their arm into opening the chat protocol. As soon as that happens expect other chats to be able to talk to whatsapp without the oficial app. So hopefully... Soon.

[–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That EU proposal is definitely not good. I don't know what you've read but it practice it will require to ban all open source chat applications https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/2/1/eu-chat-control-law-will-ban-open-source-operating-systems/

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you're linking to is about their proposition of chat control for CSAM scanning, which is a completely separate thing from the Digital Markets Act that will force big Messengers to become interoperable.

[–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're actually right. I had merged these 2 in my head because of the other issue that arises from this requirement which will affect the security of the apps, especially in apps that work with e2e encryption. e2e interoperability is kinda impossible to be implemented especially in the current deadlines. You can read more about it here https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/eu-digital-markets-acts-interoperability-rule-addresses-important-need-raises

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only there were good, open standards everyone could use, right?

[–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

lmao, no no, the proprietary standards that one company uses are much better than the proprietary standards of their competitor. Everyone knows that!

[–] chepox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I read an article about. Here is another one. Doesn't seem to mention any of the effects on Foss software so I might be out of the loop.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22995431/european-union-digital-markets-act-imessage-whatsapp-interoperable

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Tolstoy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks I will take a look. It looks kind of similar to matrix

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah very similar to Matrix or the good days of Trillian

[–] DimberDamber@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beeper

Great 90,000th or so on the waiting list.