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The answer to misleading information about USSR had issues feeding its population. source : https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp84b00274r000300150009-5

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[–] skymtf@pricefield.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly , I still think the soviet union was bad and restricted human rights. True communism will look much different.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

true communist (like true anything else) is only possible if there are no people involved.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The phrasing may be poor, but it remains that communism historically has pursued lateral and decentralized power distribution.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always say, true communism isn't possible without true democracy. Leaders must be elected in elections that actually matter.

It's likely not something that is possible with first past the post voting, or any ordinal voting system. A cardinal voting system could do it. My current favorite is STAR.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pedantry corner: Communism's goal is to achieve a communist society, which is defined by being stateless. In a true communist society there would be no need for elections nor government. Now, how to actually get there... is where people disagree, especially anarchists and marxists.

Back on topic, I think the electoral system Cuba and Vietnam use are already a better starting point. There are no parties (parties are allowed to exist but they don't run in elections, not even the Communist Party), every candidate is independent and they cannot self-nomimate or be placed by someone higher-up, they must be nominated by their community, and everyone gets an equal opportunity to run their campaign.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

No election should be anything other than proportional. Even better is sortition. However you need an apparatus very different from a liberal democracy to make it work, which is good, we need to stop making governments that look like liberalism. Which is a core part of the failure of the soviet union and communism to date, that saying you're doing socialism isn't enough, we need novel organization of people.