this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2023
447 points (96.7% liked)

Technology

58092 readers
3882 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Elon Musk says no primates died as a result of Neuralink’s implants. A WIRED investigation now reveals the grisly specifics of their deaths as US authorities have been asked to investigate Musk’s claims.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'll be downvoted to hell for this comment but... no. Not all mammals are like us, they don't have the same feelings as us, they don't have the same emotions and definitely not the same fundamental chemical reactions (whatever the hell that is supposed to be anyways).

Just to be clear: Elon Musk is a sociopathic scammer, he doesn't give a shit if living beings (or just plainly people) suffer or not and as far as I'm concerned he can go to hell where the devil will shove a pineapple up his ass every day for the shit he's caused so far.

However, that doesn't mean that animals are the same like us. I'm not claiming were better, I'm not claiming they deserve to suffer because they're different, just trying to say that even chimps are already very different from us, hell, even within humans we have a wide range: look at Elon. I think it's fair to say that he works quite different from most other humans, quite different from you and I. Monkeys, apes, and especially "mammals" as a group work VERY different from us

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Real "Insects can't feel pain" energy. Le reddit "I'm going to get downvoted for this" doesn't make your take any less horrible.

[–] SwedishFool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bro you're kidding me right? He's saying straight out that this is horrible and Elon is a sociopath, he's not defending this but rather calling it out for being fucking awful. Him saying that our brains and their brains don't work the exact same isn't him defending it but rather calling out false information. Different parts have different sizes and limits specific functions that they haven't evolved to have, just how a few days ago we had a post here about how baboons were flinging around the dead fetus from a stillbirth and they couldn't go in and take care of it because the risks involved. Their brains just aren't as developed as ours, but that doesn't mean this is acceptable behavior. It's fucking deplorable and needs to be outright forbidden.

This is shit straight out of a horror film! But don't use lies to make it seem worse, that just makes you look shallow, that you can't relate to an animal if it's wired slightly different than you.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by their response I would say that my judgement call was spot on.

[–] SwedishFool@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, absolutely not. You're as wrong as you could be. He never responded after his first comment, check the authors. You had your argument with an entirely different 3rd person.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Actually no, you misunderstood what I said.

Animals can suffer similarly like us, I'm simply saying they are not EXACTLY the same like us like OP was saying. OP claims that all mammals function exactly the same which biologically simply isn't true. Even within humans we see so much diversity in how brains work, do you really want to say that a rats brain works exactly the same as yours?

Again, doesn't mean they can't or should suffer. Elon is a monster and should be in jail