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[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I highly doubt you have heard a significant number of people who would genuinely say "disabled people who don't put their carts back are shit people."

The number of people who would unironically say that is such a small edge case that it's not necessary to talk about them when you say things like "everyone knows that disabilities result in different needs and moral responsibilities," just like it's not necessary to mention disability when you generalize and say "people who don't put their carts back are shit people."

Edge cases don't have to be accounted for in every conversation, not everything is a court of law.

This isn't really any more deep than "only a sith deals in absolutes"

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not a significant number, no, but also not zero. No the common refrain is as I said it, with the implication that anyone who doesn't for any reason is a shit human being, and Iono if you know this, but disabled people are part of 'anyone' too. My whole point is that they make blanket statements about a thing that annoys them without realizing that some of those carts are out there for some pretty good reasons actually.

Put your cart back when you're done shopping

OP didn't make a blanket statement that "anyone who does X is a piece of shit."

He said an unwritten rule, like your own statement:

Don't be stupid

Which is significantly closer to ableism than the shopping carts, with the implication that anyone who is stupid is a piece of shit.

I don't think there's anything wrong with saying "don't be stupid," for the record, but in case you weren't aware, people with brain damage are included under "anyone."

You've picked a bizarrely specific hill to die on.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago

that is such a small edge case that it’s not necessary to talk about them

Did you manage to overlook this point?