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First hydrogen locomotive started working in Poland.

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[โ€“] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is wrong already. Land use for biofuels

But it would get even worse, when we'd expand the land use even further by raising the demand significantly.

[โ€“] BaldProphet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Two things: We're already talking apples and oranges because I'm talking about biofuel production in the United States (the world's largest producer of biofuel) and you're talking about Europe.

Secondly, I'm talking about increasing the production of second-generation biofuels (cellulosic biofuel) which can be made from byproducts and green waste.

I am in favor of electrifying transportation networks in ways that do not require battery energy storage. However, no discussion about reducing reliance on fossil fuels, in particular when it comes to personal transportation, is honest if it does not account for the incredible environmental damage caused by the extraction of materials for and manufacturing and disposal of lithium batteries. Hydrogen power isn't a direct burning of hydrogen as a clean fuel, it works by generating electricity to charge lithium batteries, which are then discharged to power electric motors.

Additionally, there is not enough lithium in the earth to sustainably replace carbon fuels for transportation. Renewable biofuels, combined with a reduction or cessation of the use of fossil fuels and an increase in clean nuclear energy are a much more likely and rational solution for the transportation energy problem.