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Amazon.com’s Whole Foods Market doesn’t want to be forced to let workers wear “Black Lives Matter” masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.

National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if it’s forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.

Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high court’s June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case “provides a clear roadmap” to throw out the NLRB’s complaint.

The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are really jumping through some hoops to prove that the saying, "Black Lives Matter" has nothing to do with politics. Say it out loud for us. Say it's not a slogan and has no ties to political views.

Not accepting facts contrary to your position? How very conservative of you.

No matter how far left I am, there's always assholes like you pushing people back to the right. I'm not going right because a bunch a angry teenagers are... angry. But you're not doing the liberal cause any justice here. In fact, you're actively hurting it.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you saying black lives don't matter?

Where is the debate on the statement "black lives matter"? Please argue against that statement.

No what you're saying is that the statement has been politicized by bad actors. But those are the politics of the bad actors, not politics around the statement itself.

Should the depiction of the Earth as being round be banned as well? There is controversy around that, by idiots and grifters of course, but how is it different about the controversy around BLM?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surely you share the same opinion about those who wear gear that says "All lives matter"? They're just good people preaching a message of love?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I would if I bash my head into a wall enough to cause enough brain damage that I don't understand that "all lives matter" is part of the politicization effort by bad actors.

See there is an actual real world where people did things with motives that are very well understood. If your "logical" arguments are completely dependent on ignoring specific realities, it's not really a logical argument at all. Demanding someone ignore reality so you can have a big "aha! I proved you to be a hypocrite!" kind of moment is rather silly isn't it?

[–] null@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So you only bashed your head enough to not understand that the phrase "Black Lives Matter" is borne out of a social/political movement?

Are you saying all lives don't matter?

Where is the debate on the statement "all lives matter"? Please argue against that statement.

[–] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All lives literally can’t matter if you’re already excluding some in that, that’s the whole point of Black Lives Matter you doofus.

Remember, Black people count as people too, and as long as their lives don’t matter as much then the saying, “All lives matter” is false. Because if you cared about all lives, then you’d be caring about the black lives that are disproportionately harmed and murdered.

And one only needs to take a look at society here in America to see the black lives are treated way worse than white lives. Nearly all facets of our society have some built-in racism whether you’re just going to the hospital with chest pains or trying to buy or sell your house. You’re gonna get worse quality of everything just because of your skin color and that’s verifiable fact.

And yet all they want you to do is recognize that they’re being killed at a much higher rate than other people, and want you to care about that. And for some reason that triggers you so.

Saying all lives matter, and believing that is like having a life raft on a boat, and seeing some people drowning, but you decided to throw the life raft to the people at a table, eating shrimp. You know, because all lives matter. Black Lives Matter is just recognizing the drowning people and trying to help them.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're lost -- I'm not defending the All Lives Matter mantra.

I'm pointing out that Black Lives Matter isn't merely a benign statement of fact, it's a statement borne out of a social/political movement. Which you obviously agree with, based on what you wrote out.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are arguing in bad faith. BLM came out of police brutality targeting predominantly black communities. Period. End of story. If you don't understand that, that's because you're willfully ignorant of the world happening around you.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

Are you lost? That's exactly what I'm saying...

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

No. Because they are in bad faith inverting the wording of the phrase to sound like "muh common sense" but in reality are just reactionary contrarians that are communicating their social conservative opinions.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saying Black Lives Matter is only political to right wing racists who believe that the status quo, that Black Lives Don't Matter, is fine.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's political then? Just because one side of the spectrum has heinous beliefs does not make a thing non-political.

[–] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s both because one side wants it to be to diminish its power. But at its core it’s a human rights issue. It’s the words Black Lives Matter, strange if you get upset hearing that and think it’s purely political and should be snuffed out where you don’t like facing it. 🤔