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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True, and yet a machine gun is a not a stethoscope.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A machine gun is a tool that is made with one purpose. A better comparison would be a hunting rifle, or even a hammer.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That... was my point!

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right. It's small, and compact, so you can fit in the bike, and quick swing to someone's Dome just about does it. /s

Violence is a method of action, some tools are force multipliers in that action, and thus useful in that case.

Don't get me wrong, hammers building houses and plow shears have done more to quietly change the world then guns and swords ever have, but guns and swords have.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

some tools are force multipliers in that action, and thus useful in that case.

Sure. And removing those force multipliers from play can affect the state of the game.

When we get enough hammer murders, then we can talk about restricting hammer use.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mention hammers because they used a popular biker gang weapon to honest. Quite a bit of murders done with hammers.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay? So does it meaningfully help to restrict hammer use or doesn't it? I'm the one asking the question, you're just kind of handwaving it away, as if restricting hammers would be "ridiculous."

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry I guess there is a bit of a casm of understanding between us here. Yeah restricting hammers, heavy hard objects on a pole found crafted throughout human civilization, does sound neigh impossible to me.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a lot you can do, actually. You can put people in jail, for one. Possession in non-designated areas, such as a construction site or a personal residence, could lead to confiscation and a misdemeanor. It can just be socially impolite to have one around people—you know, like your car keys are after you've been drinking.

The chasm of understanding is that you don't want to do anything—literally anything—about abuse in your society.

And for what? So that chatgpt can give you advice on what to order next from your burrito taxi? So that you don't have to go through the pain of writing a long email to your boss that he's going to summarize with the same AI service anyway?

I don't think being able to generate funny looking pictures is worth letting Palantir, another pet project of the vampire Peter Thiel, create a nightmare social-credit system actually worthy of 1984 to deter union advocacy, palastinian-genocide protest, being remotely anti-Trump—anything found disagreeable to the state—from ever realistically happening again. In all countries, mind you.

We can't do anything about that?

...

You know what else we can't do anything about? Global Warming. When the water wars finally kill us, I suppose I'll come greet you in hell.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

You seem to think we disagree on creation of a police state or massive surveillance system being a bad thing for some reason. None of which are stopped with regulations by the states that are funding and building said things ...