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The only difference between a humane and an inhumane death, is whether or not it leaves a mess. (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago by ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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A person can be killed instantly through many different means.

As we know it, to be killed painlessly, is to be killed instantly.

If you instantly destroy a person's entire brain then they died without pain.

Yet the most effective ways of instantly destroying someone's entire brain are considered inhumane.

If instantly killing someone by smashing their head with a massive rock, or shooting them in the brain stem is inhumane, then there is no humane way to kill someone at all.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And no one would qualify those as "humane" either. So the argument still stands.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How about euthanasia?

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It's a weird edge case that is between killing and assisted suicide, assuming there is consent.

Euthanasia without consent seems not so humane to me, but once again it is an edge case that is still hard to define.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No it doesn't.

There is a difference between shooting a invader of your house/country and capturing him and torturing to death.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is a difference, but if you start saying that shooting an invader is humane, you have a serious problem.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Self-defense is inhumane? Call out the invader first, please, then we can talk about whether the defender is overdoing it.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Killing is inhumane.

Killing in self defense might be necessary, yet it does not become humane just because you want it to.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is because of the way it is, otherwise he shoots you and rapes your children. (No exaggeration, Russians did that)

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That sounds like your average american too.

Nonetheless, if you start thinking that killing is humane because "they deserve it", I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

Because I'm pretty sure that this horrible rapist invader is also convinced that you deserve it, yet I don't believe you would find their behaviour humane for that reason.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if you start thinking that killing is humane because “they deserve it”, I will repeat myself, you have a serious problem.

Fair enough. While I don't subscribe to pacifism, I do prefer that self-defense be regarded as an unfortunate necessity. Celebrating violence isn't going to help us.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

It can be a necessity and still be inhumane.

Having to do something does not make it good, and it's fine as long as people see it.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you support Russia.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Because I said that killing is inhumane?

Oh I forgot, Russia doesn't kill anyone, silly me /s