I first tried vi in the early 90s, before I had easy access to online resources. I had to open a new shell and kill the vi process to exit it. Next time I dialed into my usual BBS I asked how to exit that thing. But since then I've liked it, because vi has been on every system I ever ssh'ed into.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

You quit it just like you quit ed or ex, just that you have to enter the prompt (:) yourself as vi is not by default in prompt mode. And you should know ed, ed is the standard editor.

I use Helix btw.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I can exit Vim, it just feels like trying to rip out the dashboard and the interiors from a family car because race cars also lack them. Kate is a good speedy alternative to VSCode, not to mention it also does not have Microsoft's greedy hands on it.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get your analogy, but (neo)vim is a full featured IDE if you configure it to be one

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Out of the box, Vim's default configuration is very basic as it's trying to emulate vi as close as possible. It like if you want things like headlights or a heater or a tachometer in your family car, you got to create a vimrc and turn those features on. That was my experience when I first started using Vim - I spent a lot of time messing around creating a vimrc until I got things the way I wanted.

One of the big changes with Neovim is their default settings are a lot more like what you would expect in a modern text editor.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah that's a fair way to look at it

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

[–] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

it says I don't have permission

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

:q!

[–] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I wanted to follow up with the other error, where you didn't open a file, so it doesn't know where to write, but :q! always works :/

Can I somehow not discard my changes tho? I always open a 2nd terminal in root only for vim when editing system files so I don't have to re-do the whole config but this time in sudo.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Cumbersome: save to some temporary file I guess.