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[–] coleseph@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I upvoted you but I totally disagree - the idea that one can’t share their own “spiritual” experience without defining and agreeing (with others) on the definition doesn’t hold water for me.

Spirituality is inherently subjective - my wife feels it when she gives gratitude…my comment above is for sure more stupid but still valid

[–] BD1sHappyFeet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Do you mean "spiritual" as actually feeling a connection with the rest of all life, or understanding that each person is a tiny speck in an incomprehensibly vast universe, or imagining a connection with a personal deity, or imagining a connection with the dominant deity of the area, or feeling a peaceful satisfaction of connecting with yourself?

Religious people are likely to experience a different interpretation of the word spiritual than non-religious people. The use of the word spiritual at all will likely turn off a large part of the audience.

[–] coleseph@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

So I’m taking issue with the attempt to box in the word spiritual in one of your definitions.

If the post was asking about “happiness” instead of spirituality, nobody would be commenting “well hold on, before we begin discussion we’ll need to agree on what happiness means”

I’m not religious whatsoever btw.

To answer your question directly, I guess for me it’s the sense that something else is going on that is bigger than me. I’d personally also get this type of feeling by staring at the ocean.

[–] BD1sHappyFeet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you that if the OP had used the word happiness instead of spiritual there wouldn't be any confusion.

Perhaps it comes from the difference in whether one believes in a soul or not? I'm not sure. Honest question, not trying to fight or argue, could you clarify for me what you're taking issue with?

[–] coleseph@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure, I sincerely don’t understand why anyone on a mostly anonymous Internet forum would need to define their own version of spirituality to talk about their personal experiences they think were spiritual

I’m not trying to be obtuse, super promise, but spirituality is inherently a pretty subjective subject. We’re not all going to align. We don’t need to.

There is a definition of spirituality, but it’s meaning to folks will differ.

Again, I am not really spiritual (in my own meaning of the word) but I take issue with a proposed need to define but because it almost feels idk gatekeepy?

You and I probably have a different understanding of the meaning of spiritual. We don’t need to align those meanings for me to share my dumbass acid story that I found spiritual.

[–] BD1sHappyFeet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I understand what you're saying. Thanks for answering.

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