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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's crazy that people could see NFTs were a scam but can't see the same concept in virtual coins.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I'm not defending other cryptocoins or anything, they might be a ponzy scheme or some other form. But in the end they at least only pretended to be that, a valuta. Which they are, even though they aren't really used much like that. NFT's on the otherhand promised things that were always just pure technical bullshit. And you had to be a complete idiot not to see it. So call it a double scam.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A large majority of "real" money is digital, like 80% non-m1 m2. The only real difference between crypto and USD is that the crypto is a public multiple ledger system that allows you to be your own bank.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've heard the sales pitch, it's a ponzi scheme with receipts. An open pyramid, so to speak. At best a volatile store of wealth.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You're not sold on the concept of money? I guess that fits right in on Lemmy.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Potentially volatile right, since who knows if/when various stablecoins might depeg

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean with being your own bank? Can you receive deposits from customers? Are you allowed to lend a portion of the deposists onwards for business loans/mortgages? If not, you are not your “own bank”.

I think you mean that you can use it as a deposit for money, similar to, say, an old sock.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Banks have multiple ledgers to keep track of who owns what and where it all came from. They also use ancient fortran/cobol written IBM owned software to manage all bank to bank transactions, which is the barrier for entry.

Blockchain is literally a multiple ledger system. That is all it is. The protocol to send and recieve funds is open for all.

Locally stored BTC is when you're the bank. For all the good and bad that comes with it.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds super cool and stuff, but it has nothing to do with the essence of banking. Banks are businesses that take deposits for safekeeping and that provide credit. Banks in fact outdate Fortran by a 1000 years or so.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Oh, my apologies for not taking note of your 0.18% savings account interest rate.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Because the pyramid scheme is still going strong with them, exactly because new victims are continually falling for them. NFTs lost their hype so quickly that the flow of new victims basically completely stopped, and so the bottom went out of them much faster.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's crazy that people see crypto as a scam but can't see the same concept in fiat currencies.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Governments don't accept cryptocurrencies for taxes. They're not real currencies.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't usually accept other nation's currencies in general.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, but for every real currency it's accepted (and required) to pay taxes somewhere.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Real currency" also gets created or destroyed by a government at whims. Anybody clutching their USD rn isn't going to benefit in the long run.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So the realness by your definition has no merit.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Real currencies are far more stable and are unlikely to suddenly disappear. It can occasionally happen, but it's rare. Cryptocurrencies are a ponzi scheme.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Consumer price indexes and exchange rates are constantly fluctuating, although admittedly BTC temporarily lost half its value a few times while it climbed from $0.09 to $106,154.15 in 15 years.

The price goes up alongside adoption rates, at this point it takes a massive amount of funds to manipulate, like tens of billions.

The vast majority of scammers ask you to wire transfer funds out of the USA or purchase gift cards.

I agree with you that smaller coins are all pointless and terrible investment but I do see possitive potential for Crypto in the future as a means of people resisting central agencies.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Ponzi schemes sometimes take a while to collapse.

because there are some buisness that accept some crypto, mostly grey or black market ones, but respectable companies none the less.