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[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 64 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

The problem is that there is a not-insignificant number of people that want the US to annex Canada.

In the US, about 15% of Trump voters would support annexation of Canada, even if Canada didn't want it. That's about 1 in 7.

https://vancouversun.com/news/trump-51st-state-most-americans-have-no-interest-in-canada-annex

The disturbing thing is that about 18% of Canadian Conservatives would support annexation. That's almost 1 in 5. Most of us know five Conservatives, so chances are you know someone who is essentially a traitor. I think Conservative supporters need to be aware that this is the company they keep.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/large-majority-of-canadians-reject-trumps-annexation-overtures-poll-suggests/

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I've started telling people with those views in real life to becareful, they may get treated the same way collaborators were treated in the Nazi occupied areas of Europe post war. I find it changes their demeanor pretty quickly without actually being a threat.

(I also want it to feel like a threat because it is.)

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 minutes ago

It's not a threat, it's the reality of how these things go. With most of our WW2 veterans dead, most people have neither connection to, nor appreciation of, what happens during a military occupation. They think it's a fucking joke. It most certainly isn't. The moment hostilities become inevitable, all of the people who thought it was funny to "own the libs" by publicly supporting annexation will find that are easy, identifiable targets for righteous anger, and they should best get out before they're put out. Note that the government will not have time for controlled and legally respectful deportation, and it will be aggrieved patriots who decide their fate. Crowds of angry, scared people are not gentle, and they tend to be creative in the most horrible ways.

After hostilities end, no matter how they end, these people will still not feel any comfort. If they end up on the wrong side of history, as they usually do as traitors in an occupation, their fate is grim indeed.

The bottom line is they really should reexamine their loyalties carefully and if they choose to retain treasonous loyalties they should strongly consider leaving Canada. Not sure why they would want to stay anyway, when they clearly do not offer nor deserve the respect of their fellow Canadians.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Probably more Americans support being annexed by Canada than annexing Canada.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I mean, yeah I'd love it, but at the same time I wouldn't want Canada to take on that kind of embarrassment and that much of a workload.

[–] Superorbit@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Vancouver Sun is owned by postmedia... so take whatever they,say with a grain of salt.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah I hear you 100%. At this point any of the Postmedia outlets should be considered American propaganda, and they cannot be trusted.

However in this case the survey was from Angus Reid I believe. You can find the results elsewhere.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago

The one in five conservatives who want to be annexed by America know its the only way they can get American citizenship since they are probably low education and low skilled labour that America doesn't even want. Otherwise they would just move to America.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

That 18% number is based on polls that may be kinda susp, but even if it were true a lot of what I've heard from the dumbass gallery has been:

"Cool, then our dollar would finally be equal to USD" and "It'll be easier to get flights to the US and Disneyland" or "Then we can vote in a proper government they're and fix things"

I doubt the appetite for such goes much past a lack of critical thinking into what the realities would be

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This may be so but as we've seen in other contexts - e.g., Brexit and the last US election - these are exactly the people that can do incredible damage that can last generations.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago

Absolutely. I'd also hazard that a certain portion of these "ideas" actually come from agents working social media etc to promote them .

They're not just throwing out "DEI bad" but also "and wouldn't you like..."

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

Hi, American here.

A lot of us have been saying that for about a decade and been wrong at about every turn.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The grass isn't greener over here. It's pay to play in a bucket full of crabs.

Also understand the psychological games being played. All this shit is psychological marketing social manipulation. You need a strong grasp understanding... I couldn't even say what specifically but... But it's almost impossible to get sucked into it even if you understand it.

It's like just talking about the drama they are presenting is to already be failing at fighting it. But the paradox is you still have to fight it... Somehow.