this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2023
381 points (96.8% liked)

Asklemmy

44149 readers
1575 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

For me it is the fact that our blood contains iron. I earlier used to believe the word stood for some 'organic element' since I couldn't accept we had metal flowing through our supposed carbon-based bodies, till I realized that is where the taste and smell of blood comes from.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The birthday paradox

If you get 23 people in a room the odds of two of them sharing a birthday are 50%

The birthday paradox is a veridical paradox: it seems wrong at first glance but is, in fact, true. While it may seem surprising that only 23 individuals are required to reach a 50% probability of a shared birthday, this result is made more intuitive by considering that the birthday comparisons will be made between every possible pair of individuals. With 23 individuals, there are (23 Γ— 22)/2 = 253 pairs to consider, far more than half the number of days in a year.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

it's not part of the paradox, but there are also days when people tend to have more sex
like new years, valentines, christmas etc. (in the west at least)
so you tend to get more people born 9 months after those days

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

This seems like a logistical nightmare for all systems related to pregnancy and childcare if it were to actually become a popular thing, like damn, just pay people for having kids its not that hard

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

In high school my graduating class was 38. The one before us was 21, the one after 18.

Coincidently there was a massive blizzard that snowed everybody into their house for a week about 9 months before my birthday.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's why so many people have birthdays in September

[–] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I listen to This American Life also.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

! I just assumed, lol

They have an episode where they talk about the birthday paradox and then follow it up with talking about how the math isn’t 100% correct as applied to humans bc birthdays aren’t normally distributed.

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/630/transcript#:~:text=A%20simple%20way%20to%20think,those%20two%20share%20a%20birthday.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

ah, fair enough lol

[–] zirzedolta@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blows my mind how this by its bare bones is just simple statistics and combinations but is a totally different story when described in English. I'm sure there are similar facts like this that are mathematically logical but to a layman is confusing and inconceivable.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sure there are similar facts like this that are ~~mathematically logical~~ materially sound but to an ~~layman~~ american it's confusing and inconceivable

communism

[–] swab148@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd test this, but I don't have 22 friends.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The concept of a room is malleable. Go to a 22 person tf2 server and ask birthdays.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Swab is a person, are they not?

[–] TheActualDevil@sffa.community 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So not really then. I've always heard this but not seen it explained. But what you're saying is that with every interaction the likely hood of finding a match goes up. But realistically, probabilities like that are just fun quirks of math, not representations of reality. Probabilities are doing the math on events, but these are events discussing concrete and unchanging dates. Every person paired up isn't given a random date in every interaction. They have a set date from the outset, you just don't know it. There's not a random number generator picking a number from a set every time. Unless you're in a simulation and none of this is real and birthdays don't exist and the computer you're plugged into has to make up a random birthday every time you interact.

[–] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say. If you have questions you can click on the Wikipedia link!

[–] TheActualDevil@sffa.community -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah. Sorry, I assumed you knew what you were talking about about and not just copy/pasting a thing you found. My bad.

[–] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It helps if you can compose a coherent sentence! :)

[–] TheActualDevil@sffa.community -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your inability to understand is not my problem. I suggest a reading comprehension class. I understand that some of those big words like "Probabilities" and "math" might be too much for you. It's okay. We all have things we're good at. You'll find yours one day.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

That's completely wrong lol. Nowhere is there an assumption that birthdays are randomized each time, you just don't understand the math.