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[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ameriscum here. Trump starts a war to create plausibility for holding on to executive power past current term limits. Which has happened in American history. Not the starting part as an ends to a means though. I'm scared.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

...When in American history did a president start a war in order to serve more than two terms?

45 men have served as President of the United States, two of them non-consecutively. The only one of them to serve more than two full terms was Franklin Delano Roosevelt from 1933 to 1945, being elected four times and dying in office. At the time, no term limits for President existed, and World War 2 was certainly not started by the United States.

[–] chetradley@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

FDR was probably the greatest president we've ever had.

[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Last sentence being: "not the starting the war part"

I was referring exactly to Roosevelt and didn't realize the term limit for presidents didn't exist then.

Again, I specifically said that about not starting a war but holding office indefinitely while a war was ongoing. Don't know how to quote on mobile but, again, last sentence of original post.

Sorry just bad at words. And history apparently.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah...FDR won the elections of 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944. The United States entered World War 2 on December 7, 1941 with Japan's near simultaneous declaration of war and attack on Pearl Harbor, with Germany following suit shortly thereafter.

We're talking about Franklin "New Deal" Roosevelt here, widely popular for his pro-labor stance and his "fireside chat" radio addresses. All four of his elections he carried a comfortable lead in the popular vote of 55 to 60% and won four landslides in the electoral college, in one case carrying all but two states. He really didn't need the war as a pretext for remaining in office for what would turn out to be the last 4 months of his life.

But, "America bad," right? So lying about history is okay.

I missed context on term limits and their timing with the war. I wasn't even that far off. I never said america was bad and I didn't lie towards making a prediction. As I welcomed your information.

But thanks for reminding me, never interact with the Internet.

I bet your kids call you captain_asshole

Sorry just bad at words. And history apparently.

I mean, you're just a humble boatsman anyway. No big deal.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OP's probably thinking about Vietnam and Nixon. And Johnson.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

War on Terror lies got Bush 2 reelected. That and the corrupt government of Florida plus the corrupt supreme Court.

[–] copymyjalopy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

This one is the most probable of all the replies. Mostly because Trump has been following Putin's playback.

Albeit it might not be a full on conflict with a new nation but just a significant escalation i.e. Taiwan and China.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

2003 called. It wants it's bingo space back.