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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Exactly. But it also shows it's more about Trump than America.

Plus we got other stuff to worry about, and playing nice with America is probably better in the long run.

[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

What? Ukraine was first invaded before trump and then again without him there. In both cases, the security provided was less than what was originally guaranteed. Ukraine got screwed by believing America.

It's not just trump, there's a whole Senate and Congress cheering him on. I would not gamble our future by relying on it to only be a trump phenomenon. If Americans had elected him once and horrified of their mistake, never came close again, that'd be one thing. But we has elected with a plurarlity of votes.

America has proven an untrustworthy ally and that thwir promises aren't worth the paper their written in.

I don't think Canada's security should be "well, let's just hope they don't do it yet again!"

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

@MyBrainHurts @x00z yeah its a harsh lesson here in Europe as well. But a Trump that was slightly more patient and subtle would have been far more dangerous for us all.

[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely, thank heavens trump is cartoonishly cruel and selfish, it's quickly united everyone else. A clever, subtle and patient trump would've been much more dangerous.

I just fully disagree with the earlier comment that this is a one off trump only aberration.

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 4 hours ago

@MyBrainHurts oh yeah absolutly, it fits a patern.