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Hi guys!

I'm looking for a Proton alternative. So far I've seen these two recommended. I was wondering what are the pros/cons of each? Seems Tutanota offers more bang for the buck in mailbox size etc, but I'm not sure. I'd also like to have a better integration with Android, because Proton's email/calendar apps suck big time.

Thanks!

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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I don't know mailbox.org but tuta will try to upsell you, eventually. It's going down the same path as Proton is so maybe stay away from it if you want to get away from Proton.

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

With tuta, I was locked into using their apps which kind of sucked. I moved to mailbox.org with the intent of encrypting my inbox but never did in the end. I'm happy to have IMAP/SNMP back that's for sure.

Edit to add: been with mailbox.org 2 years and they've never tried to up sell me. Each Christmas I get a coupon or something to invite someone but I've never used it.

[–] AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Oh, I see Well, as long as they still offer the cheaper option I need, I don't really care, it's not the prettiest sales tactic but at least I can still chose

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just got on Tuta and don't want to do this every 3 years forever. Can you elaborate on Tuta upselling the customer? I just need reasonable encryption, basic mail service, and for my data not to be in the hands of psychopaths.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Every once in a while they'll send you an email with special CSS styling so you can't avoid seeing it and you can't unsubscribe from it. They call it a newsletter. It's advertising. It's less news and more begging you to buy more of their stuff. Very occasionally they'll bump new features onto a higher tier but still show that feature in your UI, with special CSS styling. God forbid if they try to upgrade your account but you deny because you're happy with the features you have now and the amount you pay; they push harder and harder the longer you're on a 'legacy' tier.

It happened to me. It'll happen to you.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 1 points 3 days ago

The GDPR ensures there's no mailing list you cannot unsubscribe from, if they won't let you it's not a good thing

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

special CSS styling so you can’t avoid seeing it

you can't set your client to plain-text only?

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 4 days ago

Tuta does not have a text-only mode for it's interface.

[–] AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, english is not my first language but what do you mean by advising to stay away from Tuta?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"stay away" from something, means to avoid it, they are saying to not use it

[–] AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Haha no I get that. The question is more like, why stay away from Tuta

Oh lol.

tuta will try to upsell you

"upsell" refers to a sales tactic, where a salesperson keeps trying to convince you to buy something more than you might need. Basically, you want to buy a $200 TV, and the sales person tells you: "Hey this $700 TV is much better, it has 8K High Definition, Premium Speakers... etc, etc..."

And then you say: "No thanks, I just want the $200 TV 😅"

But they keep repeating the $700 tv over and over and it gets annoying. That's what the user is claiming that Tuta is doing.