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You say the democrats are “worthless” when they were the ones that got out and voted. The far left is notorious for sitting their smug, entitled asses at home- protesting for single-issue bullshit while everyone else busts their ass to stand in the way of a dictator-
They you have the fucking nerve to come here land lay blame at the feet of others?
That’s some Olympic-level mental gymnastics.
So, what's Democrats' plan for when Trump decides we aren't allowed to vote anymore?
How the fuck would I know what the plan is? Do you think there are meetings? No, unlike you, I don’t presume to know what others are thinking or planning. I came to understand and accept that I don’t get to think for others a long time ago when I decided it was time to grow up if I wanted to have mature discussions with adults.
I also learned to see a straw man in the process of being built. This helps to avoid having to deal with the obnoxious bullshit that is guaranteed to happen if it’s allowed to be completed.
TLDR:
Stop asking ridiculous questions that are impossible for anyone to answer so they you can follow up with some ridiculous ‘gotcha’. That shit is only impressive to people that aren’t worth impressing.
So you just have blind faith in the party despite the fact that they keep losing.
Unlike you, I think we need to start making plans for ourselves. What are you going to do if they don't have a plan?
So what plan do you have that has any degree of reliable efficacy exactly?
Labor organizing! I literally already said this: work stoppages and militant mass strike action and aligning contract dates. We run this shit and we can shut it down if we're organized. With or without the NLRB.
And how has that worked in the past? People have been doing that exact same shit for decades. Even when we had presidents that didn’t dismantle all the departments that could have listened to you.
You’re wasting your time trying to fix the damage you caused. The only thing you can do is apologize profusely and promise that if we get the change to try again, you’ll actually help for a change.
The New Deal was the result of labor action, not the president suddenly feeling like a nice guy. He had to placate militant labor to prevent them becoming even more radicalized, like had happened a few decades prior in Russia.
In recent decades labor has been conciliatory and collaborative with the ruling class, now it must break from them and assert its own power. There's been a recent upsurge, but we have a long way to go.
Your only plan is to vote. Again, what are you going to do if you aren't allowed to vote next time?
I’ll be doing the same thing you’ll be doing, which will be nothing of any effect or consequence.
Rally all you wish. But if you all couldn’t make the change you want when we had leaders that would have been open to it, you’re not doing jack shit with one that is making protests illegal.
I’ll say this to you for the last time:
You had your fucking chance with the rest of us when we told you to vote. You chose not to. So, sorry- but… there is no high road for you here. You don’t get to pretend to remedy the very thing you helped to cause.
But go on and waste your time as you see fit.
This is really a backwards way of thinking. There was a time when most people couldn't even vote, and it sure wasn't voting that won them the right to vote.
Learn literally any history I'm begging you.
We’re not in historical America right now. We’re in right now. In the fucking present. Right where your actions helped cause the shit show we’re currently experiencing.
So how about you stop trying to change the fucking channel and watch the program you helped create. Accept what you’ve done here. Because no amount of “what about this,” or “what about that” is going to change the present day hell we are now facing.
Do you understand what is happening? I don’t give a fuck that “there was a time….” That time is irrelevant.
Wake up.
History didn't end! History is still happening! You're living through history right now!
You need to learn from history to prepare for the future, but you seem to think there's nothing to learn from the past. It's bizarre.
Holy shit this has become too stupid to even follow along with. You’re trying so hard to derail the discussion that your straw men have built their own straw men.
We’re going to have to finish this here. I can’t stop laughing enough to continue.