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Critics said the new terms implied Mozilla was asking users for the rights to whatever data they input or upload through Firefox.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Mozilla, please. The wording of things in the terms of use document is not the main problem. The exact legal interpretations given to them does not make much difference. That you suddenly feel the need to impose on your remaining users a "terms of use" agreement at the same time as you stop promising not to sell user data is not conducive to retaining your credibility.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The whole ToS is the problem. It violates the first rule of FOSS: The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).

The fact that they are dragging their feet proves that they intend to keep it to sell something or use that data (hint: that would be perfect to train a LLM or sell specialized ads). And they’ll do it over and over until we are too tired to ask.

Firefox does not need a ToS because it’s a tool. Sync or Pocket maybe, but not Firefox.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

No no, you don't understand, you see - they rewrote them! Just for you!

So. If you could just quit backlashing now, that'd be great. Oh, and click Accept.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The article points out that the legal definition of what a sale is didn't match how they were using it. They didn't stop promising to not sell user data.

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

They literally removed the entire section "Does Firefox sell my data?" which started with "Nope, never have, never will!"