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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any idea what their stance is on the russia/ukraine war?

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It appears they don't exactly condone Russia, but blame NATO for it. Kinda disappointing. I think they're the 2nd largest socialist org in the US.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be clear, the stance of Marxists in general is that if NATO didn't exist, the conditions for the war would not exist either. You likely aren't going to find many Marxist-aligned orgs that are pro-NATO.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to argue, just to understand -

Are they just mad that NATO thwarted the USSR? Have they not realized that Russia is a fascist/capitalist regime today?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

NATO is a millitary alliance of the most Imperialist countries on the planet, and protects that Empire, exerting pressure on other countries. It has nothing to do with "being mad that NATO thwarted the USSR." Of course Marxists realize that Russia is Capitalist today, Marxists understand that better than anyone else. It would obviously be much better for everyone had the USSR not dissolved, but we don't live in that timeline, sadly.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah that seems logical, the link is tankie.tube after all ...

Such a shame, them sucking up to a dictator, how is it that it always ends up like that?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

PSL is taking the standard Marxist stance on NATO, in that it is a millitary alliance of Imperialists that puts pressure on enemies of its members to intimidate into concessions. It isn't about appealing to Putin, there's nothing to gain from that.