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Thus ending our long national nightmare of accidentally opening things in WordPad on a fresh install.

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[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 26 points 1 year ago (31 children)

So, I've been mulling this over. I know Microsoft Word web version is free and I suppose that's their replacement, but it needs to be more accessible if that's the case. Like, for my very Average Mom who buys a laptop, she actually was using Wordpad for years until I got her onto my M365 family plan because it was a built in program and she knows how to navigate the Start menu and open programs.

Assuming a parallel universe where she didn't have access to desktop Word, how does she know Microsoft Word Online is available to her? Is there a shortcut on the desktop, or directly from Edge? Should there be a start menu icon which opens it up directly? Has Microsoft considered this? I would hope they have.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Just install Libreoffice. No reason for MSO unless you work in an org that supplies it.

[–] lhamil64@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I think LibreOffice is great and definitely fills the needs for most people, I wish it was more polished. IMO MS Office just feels so smooth and clean, whereas LibreOffice feels clunky and dated. And I miss Excel when using Calc, although it gets the job done.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I am from the old days. For me MSO has had nothing in terms of needed improvements since about 1998. And thankfully I moved to Libreoffice before the ribbon bar and all the VBA issues with 2013. Libreoffice became usable about 2005. Yes it was Excel for me that was the last to go. Solver in particular. As far as VBA, I switched from that to python about 1998.

As far as dated. I think it depends on who you think defines the standard . For me that is not MS.

[–] am0@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a user of advanced excel features like Power Query and even its plethora of built in functions, LibreOffice Calc just doesn't hold up at all. It lacks all beyond the most basic table features

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is the thing. I would not do anything advanced in a spread sheet. Just not productive. I would use Python.

[–] am0@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As an example, I made a spreadsheet that queried WoW's auction house API and showed me items, their crafting components, prices and profits from crafting, that was then easily interactable and extendable in the GUI. Doing the same thing in python would have been great up until the point where I want to display the information... getting python to output a proper front end GUI is definitely a more time consuming exercise than using Excel's built in functionality

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Keep in mind Python can interact with spreadsheet formats. So it is very possible to input your data in a spreadsheet , load that data into Python, then dump it into a spreadsheet. Easiest is CSV but I have done direct too.

What approach depends. If you know a spreadsheet really well, then taking it quite a ways makes a lot of sense. On the other hand when one gets to the point of writing more then 100 lines of VBA and especially into the 500 range, it may be time to use another approach. Same when execution times are very long or data very large. Working with large VBA code bases is kind of nutty but people often get too deep into the I have a hammer so every problem looks like a nail thinking. I have had to work with code like that myself.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried enabling the ribbon interface?

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Sure. No thanks.

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