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[–] LeHappStick@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here I am wondering why there is still a downvote button in the YouTube comments... it does nothing!

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The same reason that a lot of crosswalks have fake buttons. So you feel like you have control.

[–] faladorable@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and why elevators have non functioning close buttons

[–] Iridium@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some elevators.

All the ones near me have fully functional close buttons.

[–] faladorable@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

true, it definitely depends where you live. If you’re in the US then it’s definitely a case of most don’t work, because most elevators at this point have been made after 1990, but if you live somewhere else then it can definitely be a case of some, or even none

but that said there definitely are functioning crosswalk buttons that work so being pedantic about some, most, etc, is irrelevant because as long as there are any that dont work its relevant to the topic

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

While simultaneously undermining your sense of trust in the world

[–] BeegYoshi@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually it's worse than nothing. Youtube promotes comments based on engagement, so while only an upvote increases the tally, voting at all still makes it more visible.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The downvotes are still counted, just not displayed. You can re-enable it via browser extensions.

[–] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure those extensions all use some sort of estimate methodology, the dislikes aren't available via any apis or anything

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, I wonder exactly how they work, then?

[–] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've never used one myself but I've heard talk of various ones either A) taking the public (real) like number and extrapolating the dislikes based on an old like/dislike ratio available for the video from before the dislike removal (doesn't work on new videos) or B) the extension includes a feature where the user can like/dislike the video within the extension and then the dislike number is extrapolated using the public (real) like number and the extension's private like/dislike ratio. In either case the number is not connected to the "real" dislike count that YouTube would have access to internally

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

some sort of estimate methodology

Hey GPT4 watch this video and tell me what its ratio of likes to dislikes would be

[–] Supermuff@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For videos. The commnt dislike has done nothing for years

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, didn't realize it was referring to comments. Yeah, that one's pointless!