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[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a knee jerk reaction for many to want polls to still matter. Polls are important of course, but not this year and next year is uncharted territory.

The only thing to do watch now is the comfort zone of the 10,000+ people in the American billionaire families; and that is the only check in power right now

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'd be surprised if there aren't massive changes to gun laws in the next 2 years and a giant restructure of the military in the next 3 so that Trump or one of his cronies can still be in power in 5....

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm wondering when private gun ownership will be banned. At the rate they're going it might happen within 6 months.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are basically only two lines that this administration can cross after which it will be, to employ the vernacular, on.

  • Cancelling retirees' social security and/or retirement benefits
  • Trying to take everyone's guns

  The major difference is that one those groups is preeminently equipped to make that process very difficult. I'll bet you can guess which one it is.

The one thing that every paranoid loon agrees on -- left or right -- is that the US government actually attempting to blanket confiscate guns is the 100% unquestionable and unambiguous indicator of everything going absolutely sideways. This is why gun bans have always been incremental; those in politics absolutely know that the end result of trying to do it all at once is only a guarantee that a lot of people get shot.

Watching all the rednecks try to reconcile that it is in fact Trump's gubmint that is comin' to a'take their gunz is going to be quite the spectacle, I'm sure.

[–] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The same 2a guys who cheered when Trump said take the guns first? Boomers who found out their precious affordable healthcare was the same as Obama care and still voted Trump twice... (X) Doubt. It's a cult only one way it ends.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The difference is all the gun totin' Trump voters genuinely believed, either via self delusion or with the assistance of right wing media, that Trump wouldn't take their guns. They made up any number of excuses to rationalize what was said in order to maintain support for their man. "He didn't actually mean it." "He was just speaking figuratively." "It was taken out of context." Etc., etc.

That will last only right up until he actually does this. Never mind that it's already too late in that they voted for him. I am predicting that exact moment is when the realization will finally set in. I'm sure many will probably also try to cope by trying to find someone else to blame. That won't change the fact that in the moment, regardless of the rationale, showing up in a uniform and trying to kick in a paranoid nut's door and tell him you're here for his guns is a monumentally stupid idea. The element of surprise will surely work in the feds' favor only until it comes out that the first gun owner has been killed as a result of a mass confiscation incident.

Both sides will ultimately and inevitably decide that "shoot first, ask questions second" will be the only viable strategy. Except it isn't, when both sides are doing it. The only winning move is not to play.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Death Cult gonna Death Cult

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All gun control in the past has been to disarm marginalized populations and put ownership behind a paywall and within a national registry. I don't think they'll ban gun ownership for everyone, however I foresee ownership to be much more stringently controlled and for tax stamps to increase. Making it so that the majority of guns are still owned and operated by white middle to upperclass men, or private security and law enforcement that serve the wealthy to protect property and the current power structure as it stands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States

https://socialistra.org/

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago

Fascism rarely plays well with personal gun ownership. Trump has already floated the idea once, so he's definitely going to try.