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with bonus threat of increasing tariffs if any retaliation...

Charge US $30B per month for NORAD access. If Russia can strike Permean basin with nuclear ICBM then that can help their negotiations with ending war on Ukraine. Fund UBI based on NORAD fee.

Eliminate tariffs on China. Sanctions on Russia. US industry that says it will make long term expansion investments in US to cut off Canadian supplies, gets immediate China contracts in response. Or make comensurate "lease fee" for NORAD higher.

Fentanyl and immigration is complete BS. This is a declaration of war based on manufacturing a false "national emergency" pretext. Any response that doesn't treat it as a war declaration by US is pathethic weakness and politician/Canadian treason to their CIA masters.

Make the US beg to treat Canada much better than it was treated before these tariff declarations. USA collapse is necessary for Canada to prevail. Not begging to let Trump declare you a sufficient sycophantic bitch, which won't happen.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a war declared by US rulers. Your measures would hurt individual Americans specifically.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but at some point you have to hold the voters to accord? They wanted this. They voted for this. He literally told them he would do this. And then he won the popular vote.

Like it or not, the only way I see getting out of this mess is mass suffering of the US population. I can't see any other way to have the cult fall apart. Though it make just strengthen it too.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but at some point you have to hold the voters to accord? They wanted this. They voted for this. He literally told them he would do this. And then he won the popular vote.

"Solve the fentanyl and immigration "crisis"" was a Mexico thing. "There is nothing Canada can do, and we must extort them through economic warfare to force them to become 51st state" was bs after election.

Like it or not, the only way I see getting out of this mess is mass suffering of the US population.

"This is an act of war, and national emergency is bs pretext for act of war, means that Canada must end military cooperation with US, or demand high fees for cooperation on NORAD and 5 eyes. Canada will stop viewing US/Israel enemies/adversaries as its own."

National population opinion is what media says is opinion. Politicians needing Canada to be a colony, NORAD, US weapons customer, never mind actually providing the radar forewarning of Russian iCBM strikes, that deters Russia from winning war in Ukraine in a day, while simultaneously collapsing US economy through strike on Permean oil basin, is the leverage Canada needs at political level of US, which is all that matters. Failure to threaten US with neutrality, is failure to impress inconveniences to US evil warmongering on Canada vs "colonial status it used to enjoy".