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Tariffs start Tuesday. Here is response that should be taken. (lemmy.ca)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by humanspiral@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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with bonus threat of increasing tariffs if any retaliation...

Charge US $30B per month for NORAD access. If Russia can strike Permean basin with nuclear ICBM then that can help their negotiations with ending war on Ukraine. Fund UBI based on NORAD fee.

Eliminate tariffs on China. Sanctions on Russia. US industry that says it will make long term expansion investments in US to cut off Canadian supplies, gets immediate China contracts in response. Or make comensurate "lease fee" for NORAD higher.

Fentanyl and immigration is complete BS. This is a declaration of war based on manufacturing a false "national emergency" pretext. Any response that doesn't treat it as a war declaration by US is pathethic weakness and politician/Canadian treason to their CIA masters.

Make the US beg to treat Canada much better than it was treated before these tariff declarations. USA collapse is necessary for Canada to prevail. Not begging to let Trump declare you a sufficient sycophantic bitch, which won't happen.

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

why don't we apply for eu membership? /s(?). US is too erratic, why not reach out for other partnerships?

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  1. The EU wouldn't take us.
  2. Western Canada would see joining the EU as a bad deal. Alberta especially would be very opposed to it.
[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I propose: you trade Alberta to the US and receive New England and the Pacific Northwest?

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I'm in Alberta, so no :(

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The EU wouldn't take us.

I'd actually love to have Canada in the EU. Not sure if the rules would allow it and there would definitely be issues around standards but I feel like most Europeans would be me more than open to the notion.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Canadian politicians see that as overton window. Real cooperation with EU comes with threatening alliance/cooperation with Russia. China, North Korea, Iran relations necessary too. Without Russia relations "threat", including soliciting better deals for NORAD sites, EU will just desperately kiss the diaper in hopes of avoiding their own tariffs which they won't.

No one was stopping Canada from trade with Europe before. Tariff levels are not high/significant. Expect crickets from EU, unless they need to beg Canada to not remove sanctions on Russia specifically, but because they are also US/CIA colonies, on other US adversaries.

Canada needs to not just mention in passing that this is a war declaration, but also treat the US as an enemy until/if they beg for better relations.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

does article 5 count for economic stuff?

Canada has some goodwill why not call in some favours?

If it sounds like I have no idea what I'm talking about that is because I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'd love to learn more! I'm curious what my country is going to do when its neighbour starts bullying us/everyone. Why not team up with mexico and start making some unusual alliances?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

article 5 of NATO is not as scary as it sounds. It only requires having a meeting. Inter NATO disputes (Greece and Turkey) have previously been ruled as not even requiring a meeting.

Why not team up with mexico and start making some unusual alliances?

Mexico certainly produces the food that Canada can't and can be substituted from US suppliers. There is the issue of whether it can be transported by land to Canada. The necessary "unusual" alliances are with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea.