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Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.

This is murder.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do feel sorry for the unborn child though. I wish there were a way they could have stopped the car non-violently that didn’t violate our freedoms.

This is unacceptable. Ohio won't have exceptions for incest and the health of the mother, but they will have exceptions if the mother allegedly commits a crime and is innocent until proven guilty under our legal system?

Anyone who is pro life and not furious about this is a fucking craven hypocrite.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not "pro-life". Hell, I don't value human life at all for the most part. Most people are fucking idiot trash. But I do believe that if we're passing laws that put women on murder charges for aborting, police should be held to that same standard. If they kill a child due to their enforcement actions, that should be considered killing an innocent bystander and should be held accountable for that. (And let's be fair, the only reason they want to keep people from aborting is because you're not producing another wage-slave for the nation to work to death)

Also, obviously I wish this situation turned out differently. I don't want police everywhere to have short-range vehicle immobilizers, because like anything, police WILL abuse any power put into their possession. But on the same hand, I think to myself that maybe if they did have immobilizers, police chases, people running over others with vehicles, etc would be a much more solvable problem. Many police interactions involving cars become dangerous quickly.

Everyone here on lemmy is so caught up in their own preconceptions that they aren't replying to have a discussion - they're replying to issue their rebuttal because they're caught up in an emotional reaction.

Ideally this whole incident could have gone better -- but I don't know of a solution that would give the police the ability to detain this woman with the actions she was willing to take. Except obviously my idea of short-range vehicle immobilizers. But if you give that ability to the police, others will find it and hack it, abuse it, etc. So I don't think in the long run it would work.

You could maybe equip them with some sort of tire-destroying vehicle immobilizer, something that permanently stuck into the tire - but given how tough tires are, it's not something that could easily be carried around.

The MOST reasonable idea here was that the police shoot her tires out - but I don't know the dynamics between bullets and tires so I'm unsure if that would be dangerous to bystanders or not.