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    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Try to pass init= and you'll see reduced RAM usage. Systemd is bloated.

    [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Hell, pass init=/bin/yes and you'll see even more greatly reduced RAM usage!

    ❯ ps aux | grep /usr/lib/sys | awk '{print $6}' | sed 's/$/+/' | tr -d '\n' | sed 's/+$/\n/' | bc
    266516
    

    So that's 260 MiB of RSS (assuming no shared libs which is certainly false) for:

    • Daemon manager
    • Syslog daemon
    • DNS daemon (which I need and would have to replace with dnsmasq if it did not exist)
    • udev daemon
    • network daemon
    • login daemon
    • VM daemon (ever hear of the principle of least privilege?)
    • user daemon manager (I STG anyone who writes a user daemon by doing nohup & needs to be fired into the sun. pkill is not the tool I should have to use to manage my user's daemons)

    For comparison the web page I'm writing this on uses 117 MiB, about half. I'll very gladly make the tradeoff of two sh.itjust.works tabs for one systemd suite. Or did you send that comment using curl because web browsers are bloated?

    For another comparison 200 MiB of RAM is less than two dollars at current prices. I don't value my time so low that I'll avoid spending two bucks by spend hours debugging whatever bash scripting spaghetti hell other init systems cling onto to avoid "bloat". I've done it, don't miss it.

    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I'm using Eternity for Lemmy stuff on phone and Lemmy web under Brave.