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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world -5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Having a backbone would be to stick around and fight this shit; not flee.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

Neither is easy.

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

That's a bit harsh. Like my old man always said, "you gotta know when to hold 'em; know when to fold 'em; know when to walk away and know when to run."

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Your dad was Don Schlitz? Or was he Kenny Rogers?

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Actually, my dad hated that song. It was my mom who was whistling it all over the house.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That song is about a gambler's desire for selfish self-preservation, not "having a backbone"

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

It might be, but if you think about it, it also applies to life in general, which has a lot in common with gambling. Sometimes you have to take risks, sometimes the risks are stupid...

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

You're kidding me! Now I need to go and read the lyrics.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It's not. Granted, I 100% respect and understand someone's decision to leave the USA at this time, but there's very little that's courageous about putting yourself into a better situation. It's the next option up from rolling over and dying.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

If the US had an actual democracy and ability to fight back, you’d be right. But we don’t, so you aren’t.

You can’t expect people to take up arms and go kill cops and politicians, even if that’s what’s needed. That is a hell of a lot to ask of someone. Why aren’t you doing that right now? Are you scared?

Yeah, them and everyone else is too.

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I didn't expect such a backlash from a dumb comment which was only intended to reference The Gambler.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, walking away from every person you've ever known and every support system you've ever had in hopes of a better future with no real promises to fall back on if it doesn't work out isn't courageous at all.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd call courageous moving into a red state... and then everything you said above still applies. I moved from a red state to a blue state in October. Everything you said applies to me, but I can assure you that my decision was not one that was "courageous." It's self preservation.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 hours ago

Self preservation can take courage.

You're being nitpicky for no reason. Something can be courageous without being the most courageous thing anyone has ever done.

[–] RamenJunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

People have been fighting for like 8 years now.

Its over, sometimes it best to just walk away.