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If you want to hang out or use the restroom at Starbucks, you’re going to have to buy something.

Starbucks on Monday said it was reversing a policy that invited everyone into its stores. A new code of conduct – which will be posted in all company-owned North American stores – also bans discrimination or harassment, consumption of outside alcohol, smoking, vaping, drug use and panhandling.

Starbucks spokesperson Jaci Anderson said the new rules are designed to help prioritize paying customers. Anderson said most other retailers already have similar rules.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They do. But basically it triggers a series of nagging emails which eventually result in a final one saying that you either return the book or pay for the book if you wish to continue using library services. If I remember correctly, that takes about nine months. And they don't charge some outrageous price for the book either, they just charge what it would cost to replace it. They might not even do that because they might not actually want to replace it, but my wife has never actually told me that. I imagine that's the case though because they're constantly weeding out books that no one has taken a look at in 20 years in order to make room for new books.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Seems like a cool system but if your waiting for a copy of a new release they only have w5 copies of I can see not getting to read it for a very long time.

If I recall correctly (i.e., I'm talking out my ass), when people have late fees that continue to stack up, some percentage of people will decide to just stop using the library. This results in them keeping the books, and also removes them as customers. This ultimately costs the library more than they gain by having fees.

Also, there's the saying "a fine is a price". The idea is that by having a late fee, people are okay paying the late fee. Shame is often stronger than modest fees.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Most people are honest people. Especially people who use libraries. It's just not a big problem as far as I know.

Also, if you're going to a library to get a book, you probably don't want to keep the book.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Makes sense. I guess I’m one of the few who can never finish a book by the due date so I end up buying instead. Maybe I should just start returning those to the library cause I never read em again.

Edit: huh. My library got rid of fees a few years ago. TIL.

[–] expr@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

We use the library a lot and honestly it's just not an issue. People respect libraries and generally return books by the due date.