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I am seeing a lot of fearmongering and misinformation regarding recent events (CSAM being posted in now closed large lemmy.world communities). I say this as someone who brought attention to this with other admins as I noticed things were federating out.

Yes, this is an issue and what has happened in regards to CSAM is deeply troubling but there are solutions and ideas being discussed and worked on as we speak. This is not just a lemmy issue but an overall internet issue that affects all forms of social media, there is no clear cut solution but most jurisdictions have some form of safe harbor policy for server operators operating in good faith.

A good analogy to think of here is if someone was to drop something illegal into your yard that is open to the public. If someone stumbled upon said items you aren't going to be hunted down for it unless there is evidence showing you knew about the items and left them there without reporting them or selling/trading said items. If someone comes up to you and says "hey, there's this illegal thing on your property" you report it and hand it over to the relevant authorities and potentially look at security cameras if you have any and send them over with the authorities then you'd be fine.

A similar principle exists online, specifically on platforms such as this. Obviously the FBI is going to raid whoever they want and will find reasons to if they need to, but I can tell you for near certainty they probably aren't as concerned with a bunch of nerds hosting a (currently) niche software created by 2 communists as a pet project that gained popularity over the summer because a internet business decided to shoot itself in the foot. They are specifically out to find people who are selling, trading, and making CSAM. Those that knowingly and intentionally distribute and host such content are the ones that they are out for blood for.

I get it. This is anxiety inducing especially as an admin, but so long as you preserving and reporting any content that is brought to your attention in a timely manner and are following development and active mitigation efforts, you should be fine. If you want to know in more detail click the link above.

I am not a lawyer, and of course things vary from country to country so it's a good idea to check from reputable sources on this matter as well.

As well, this is a topic that is distressing for most normal well adjusted people for pretty obvious reasons. I get the anxiety over this, I really do. It's been a rough few days for many of us. But playing into other peoples anxiety over this is not helping anyone. What is helping is following and contributing the discussion of potential fixes/mitigation efforts and taking the time to calmly understand what you as an operator are responsible for within your jurisdiction.

Also, if you witnessed the content being discussed here no one will fault you for taking a step away from lemmy. Don't sacrifice your mental health over a volunteer project, it's seriously not worth it. Even more so if this has made you question self hosting lemmy or any other platform like it, that is valid as well as it should be made more clearer that this is a risk you are taking on when making any kind of website that is connected to the open internet.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

For anyone who's uncomfortable about the possibility of serving CSAM from their instance, just block pictrs from serving any image by adding this to lemmy nginx config, at least until this pull request merged and included in the future lemmy version.

location ^~ /pictrs/ {
    return 404;
}
[–] seang96@spgrn.com 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

503 would probably be more accurate since it's a server side error saying it's not available compared to 404 not found.

[–] antony@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

451 or 403 would be more appropriate as it's not available for legal reasons. 410 Gone would also fit well if it's a permanent block. I'd steer clear of 5xx server side because it encourages retry-later. The client has requested something not served, firmly placing it into the 4xx category. The other problem with 503 in particular is that it indicates server overload, falsely in the case of a path ban.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean depends on if they want to do permanent or not, but the comment I replied to said at least until the issue / PR and I assume that change will be prioritized by the community and out before we know it.

[–] antony@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I do hope so. Temporary things have a stickiness that makes them semi-permanent. May as well go with 418 then :o)

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