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[โ€“] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most people don't "back" Trudeau. We tolerate him because the likely alternative is so much worse.

That's the thing though. The people flying the duck Trudeau flags don't understand that we don't have unwavering loyalty to the party. They don't understand nuance. And it's going to destroy Canada during the next election.

[โ€“] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We sometimes like to think of Canada as our nice, quiet, chill & reasonable neighbor here in the States. Occasionally the veil gets lifted like this and reminds us that you're all dealing with the exact same shit as us. I'm still not sure if that makes me feel better that we're not alone, or worse because all of this crap we're dealing with is a growing global problem.

[โ€“] Eranziel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I would actually argue that a large part of Canada's issues in this regard is leakage from our southern border. Not all of it, of course. But a large part. Media is dominated by US perspectives, including all your garbage.

[โ€“] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going to vote conservative . Until MAGA won. Now. I guess I'm just not voting.

[โ€“] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why not vote NDP or Liberal under new leadership? You clearly have not fallen into the cult of personality the conservatives have, so have a look at policy. No party will ever completely align and there may he things you strongly disagree with, but what about points you do agree with? I highly doubt you disagree with literally everything on both party platforms. There are a lot of things I disagree with too so I have to look at the policy I do agree with.

This is your chance to send a message to the party you were hoping to support that they are no longer acceptable to folks like you. Seriously, we are so polarized that not voting for them is the same as giving them your vote. Look what happened down south.

[โ€“] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Im an odd case who votes based on Foreign Policy first above all else. (for no other reason than because since 2022. I believe We are in an era that will be defined as the beginning of the third world war). So my priorities Federally, go towards the party that has the strongest agenda in terms of protecting Canada's Sovereignty, and upholding the international rules based order. Supporting human rights, and currentley, above all else, opposing fascism. namely the Russian Federation and it's global hybrid war.

Unfortunately since November, Our closest Ally looks to become our greatest threat once again, and that changes the math entirely. the Conservative Party cannot be trusted to protect Canadian Sovereignty. And I will not vote for the Liberals again most likely in my lifetime. Certainly not until they've spent at least a few years out of power. The Trudeau effect needs time to die off.

Logic then points towards NDP. I don't align or agree with very much of their agenda, I am as tired of Jagmeet as I am of Trudeau and Pierre. But Federally It will either be NDP or none at all. Provincially I vote independent,

(I live in a riding that has consistently gone independent, its nice to not be beholden to monolithic parties. Both provincially and federally my region has had a history of voting for the Liberals or Conservatives, and then our representative gets kicked out of the party, and we vote them back in again as independent. If I had a nickel for every time it happened, I'd have 10 cents, which is not a lot, but its weird that it happened twice)

[โ€“] fourish@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Iโ€™m voting NDP. They deserve a shot to prove themselves and theyโ€™re better than the fucking conmen.

we donโ€™t have unwavering loyalty to the party

It's all projection. Can't have an Epic Clash if Civilizations if you're waving the blue flag and there's no uniform standing opposition waving the red flag.

So they've adopted a "We Hate Red Flags" flag, to give themselves something to argue with.