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I don't get this. AI bros talk about how "in the near future" no one will "need" to be a writer, a filmmaker or a musician anymore, as you'll be able to generate your own media with your own parameters and preferences on the fly. This, to me, feels like such an insane opinion. How can someone not value the ingenuity and creativity behind a work of art? Do these people not see or feel the human behind it all? And are these really opinions that you've encountered outside of the internet?

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[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

None of the things I mentioned are even close to as horrible as AI is in those ways. Either you're being disingenuous bc you think you need chat gpt to think for you, or you just have no idea at all what "AI" is and really need to do a lot of research on how harmful it is. Comparing CGI render farms to AI servers? Comparing human inspiration and paid for asset packs to a computer rearranging existing, stolen art? You're not serious are you?

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

bc you think you need chat gpt to think for you, or you

Woah woah turn down the projection man. I don't use gippity lol.

or you just have no idea at all what "AI" is

I think I do, but feel free to enlighten me.

need to do a lot of research on how harmful it is

Are you a "do your own research" type, or are you going to state your case?

Comparing CGI render farms to AI servers?

Yes.

Actually I only advocate for locally run FOSS AI models because I'm anti-commercial-AI and broadly anti-capitalist as a whole.

So do tell me, how does my one gayming RTX GPU that can just about accommodate an LLM or SDXL compare to a render farm for Netflix/Hollywood slop powered by coal in third world country sweatshops they outsource to?

Comparing human inspiration and paid for asset packs to a computer rearranging existing, stolen art?

"Our glorious inspiration" "Their stolen art"

You don't come off as mentally stable my friend, maybe log off and calm down for a bit?

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

BTW if you unironically think that original art inspired by previous works is actually comparable to a computer scraping and slapping random bullshit together, you don't know jack shit about art or the "AI" you so desperately need

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

More projection. Why even respond if you have no counterpoint? If I'm such a nitwit gippity user, it shouldn't be hard for you to enlighten us all, should it?

I'm not AI expert, but I understand the basic principles behind diffusers and I've written a few tiny image classifiers in python for fun before. Surely an expert like yourself can do better?

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey if you can't actually make a solid argument for why "AI" is actually fine, there's always calling the other person insane :D your use of an LLM isn't any better or less cringe just bc you don't use chat gpt, you're still outsourcing your thinking and decision making to a computer, and you still use a fuck of a lot more power than you should on something that is ultimately stupid and pointless. Your life was fine before "AI", why are you acting like this is some good or helpful or necessary thing at all?

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not outsourcing anything, why would you assume so? Do you?

I don't really use LLMs at all and I haven't used SD in ages. Are you trying to say art is stupid and pointless?

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was wrong of me to assume you were using it in the wasteful, mindless ways a lot of people use "ai" stuff, I'm sorry for being an asshole about it. Afaik you running stuff like that sometimes isn't any more wasteful than you spending that time playing games that push your hardware to the max, and I hadn't thought about that before those replies.

I've been really worried about how shady and powerful open ai is and how many people are starting to use it to write science papers and cheat through med school and shit, but other than all the ways corporate "AI" is horrible there's a lot of cool and fun applications imo, and I'm sorry for assuming you were supporting sam altman's shenanigans

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Nah it's cool DW, no offence taken.

We should support AI only as research in the public sector that is open sourced, leveling the playing field, rather than Corpos amassing evermore power.

We can't make AI go away, and I'm sorry to those who feel it cheapens their life's work or passion, but we can make it belong to the people. It was after all public sector research that got us to this point in the first place.

Also, fuck Sam Altman and Elon Husk and all the corpos and grifters in charge of them.