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The former Bank of England governor Mark Carney, a climate-focused economist who became the first non-Briton to run the Bank, is considering entering the race to replace Justin Trudeau as Canada’s prime minister.

Trudeau announced on Monday he would step down after nearly 10 years in power once his ruling Liberal party chose a new leader, throwing open the doors to a fierce party race before a general election later this year.

Carney, 59, in a statement quoted by Bloomberg, where he is a chair of the board of directors, said he would be “considering this decision closely with my family over the coming days”. A longtime and prominent member of the Liberal party, Carney said he was “encouraged” by the support of Liberal lawmakers and people “who want us to move forward with positive change and a winning economic plan”.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ex-banker and asset manager doesn't sound very appropriate for the context we're in tbh. Yes I know he's not that one-dimensional, but this is the frame at the moment and he didn't post good numbers in the first available poll he featured in.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Carney is interesting in that respect because he has relatively leftist ideas for an economist. He's sort of like Piketty; a neolib with socialist characteristics.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's my impression too, which is why I'm not petrified by the prospect of him being a PM. That said I'd prefer someone like Nate Smith if the numbers show he could win enough votes from PP.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I love his work with the Fearless Flyers — I'd vote for him on that basis alone! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72_zXigcOrA

Edit: seriously though, Smith is way too young. He could be a good candidate for next time.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

On the other hand, I think that’s the type of person who when working for the people could put forward policy to actually affect the situation.

Frankly the current liberals repeatedly stoked housing demand and didn’t significantly shift to increasing supply. I would hope an economist would focus on the right incentives for the market to drive demand.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This highlights a problem I foresee with a Carney PM - relying on market forces to fix housing. The market has no incentive in solving the supply shortage without massive intervention. Perhaps that's what you're envisioning when you say the right incentives. In the past this problem has been successfully tackled centrally. E.g. council houses in the UK.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think there’s only two ways out: do something massive and the government directly builds and forces hands, or the government steps in and gets developers to actually build by e.g. giving our preferred interest free loans and building bonds.

Ideally we get both so that if the market don’t play ball the gov can undercut them with no profit motive.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

Carney leans left so he'd likely go the government-built route.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I would hope an economist would focus on the right incentives for the market to drive demand.

Herein lies an issue: the fact that he's an economist doesn't mean that he's in for the economics of the greater good. And the fact that he himself has a few strong beliefs on what the economic solutions should be, doesn't mean he'll actually make them happen.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

There is criticism in the economics community lately, Nobel Prize winner Angus Deaton published a scathing critique of the field that has garnered a lot of discussion https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2024/03/Symposium-Rethinking-Economics-Angus-Deaton

I hope that means economists are seriously reevaluating how and what they communicate especially for policy and government.

I don't think your criticism applies to just Carney, you can apply that argument to every politician.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He sure was when he headed the BoC during the 2008 crash.

If you remember he never once handed out useless platitudes or treated Canadians like they were stupid.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Easier to do when you're not an elected official.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

He spoke to us often during that time. Never lied or glossed over the dangers once.