Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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My man found out the hard way about depreciation. All my life people have said never to buy a new car because it loses 20% of its value the moment you drive it off the lot. If you really want to drive new cars the best way to do it is lease and change every couple of years (this is still not financially sound, just better than buying new).
20%? I always heard 50% lol
cars are kind of a scam
The sadder scam is that most advertisements about car are like this https://youtu.be/KIvC5wsoW2Y (literally the 1st video I found) namely :
Whereas the reality is, for the vast majority of people (I'd wager 99%), you will drive bumper to bumper for hours to go from home to work then work to home in polluted cities, going through rings roads, stopping are red lights, etc.
Cars are a scam in so many ways but IMHO the worst one is the promise of pleasure while driving.
Reminds me that someone posted a 1950s "the future of travel" video, and it was all retro futuristic cars doing 200 mph on almost totally empty highways.
I get pleasure on my commute. I'm on the edge of a metro area and so is my job. I can sit in traffic for 30 minutes driving straight there or I can drive a little further out and around and drive country roads for 30 minutes. It's more distance but I love that drive.
The more expensive the car the higher the percentage lost by driving off the lot, I think
That is a very good method for a business owner needs a tax write off. People who are employees leasing are fucking idiots.
What's the best used electric car?
I'm afraid that logic doesn't translate because batteries don't last 300,000 miles like the engine on a good ICE Toyota.
Batteries do last 300,000 miles. They might give only around 80-85% of their original range, but they are still very usable vehicles. Again this also depends on the reliability of the manufacturer and on the how the user has maintained the vehicle.
Just like how a shitty hyundai engines from back in the day would not last 300,000 miles, poorly managed batteries (like in the older generation nissan leafs) will also not last that long.
I just went into an electric motorcycle shop here in my country, and I was told the battery would need to be replaced every 3 years.
Most electric vehicles that ive found will not last 300,000 miles. Worse, I can't figure out which will last and which won't last.
Motorcycles batteries won't last as long as car batteries. The main reason being motorcycles (at least in the west) are designed to be high performance, fun to ride machines. Smaller batteries (because motorcycles don't have much space) combined with higher discharge rates (because they are being driven fast for fun) means more cycles on the battery.
For comparison, I drive a moped/e-scooter that is has been tuned for slow, local rides. That thing comes with a 7 year, 80000 km warranty on the battery so the manufacturer thinks the battery will last at least that long before hitting 70% SoH.
Modern 4 wheeled EVs (mainly cars) should last that long. Bikes/motorcycles will not and frankly, I have never seen a motorcycle or moped (ICE or EV) last for nearly 500,000 km on the original powertrain.
(laughs in fleet of 78 chevys) try 500,000 and still going.
@jagged_circle @TheDrink reliable condition testing of batteries may be a big deal