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Not my title! I do think we are being listened to. And location tracked. And it's being passed on to advertisers. Is it apple though? Probably not is my take away from this article, but I don't trust plenty of others, and apple still does

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don’t know what you mean. Every ad campaign has its own keywords. They add up to a ton.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don’t see how this clearly AI-generated article about how we’ll have 1-on-1 conversations with ads has to do with what we’re talking about.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Ok here's from the google dev blog

https://blog.google/products/ads-commerce/put-google-ai-to-work-with-search-ads/

Here's how a model can store a localized profile from adsense and learn on it

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316821039_Convolutional_Dictionary_Learning_via_Local_Processing

Here's how google tensor chips are literally built for that workflow to the detriment of other performance.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-tensor-g4-explained-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-pixel-9-processor-3466184/

Google has an adsemse profile on you the user, that profile is added to by metadata from apps and sensors on the phone; then offloaded to google cloud servers when the phone is charging. No input from the user required.

Here's a GrapheneOS security feature to prevent persistence and breaks the above workflow.

https://grapheneos.org/features#anti-persistence

I have an honest question. How much android kernel development or tensor chip work have you done?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That Google blog also says the same thing except it's written by a human. I'm not disputing that AI can process audio data into ad statistics; I'm disputing that audio data is constantly recorded and sent.

I interpreted Farts as saying that the device listens to key ad words just like it listens for "Hey Siri", and I asked how it decides which words to listen to. Each ad campaign has their own keywords, and if you want to personalize, you'll have to listen to all of the words from every campaign, which would be equivalent to listening to everything and would severely degrade performance.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Reread my response to you. It's not a stream, it's locally held as tokens and then streamed over wifi while charging. I don't see any sources posted by you. I think we're wasting each other's time.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 5 days ago

And the tokens would have to be analyzed from audio, which has to be recorded first. Held temporarily or not, it's mostly the same.