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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not possible. The French quarter is very small with narrow streets which are used daily when there are no events

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If a garbage truck or delivery truck can get there, then so can a forklift bringing the blocks in from an adjacent street or staging area.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was thinking of blocking every street between Canal to the West, Rampart to the North, Esplanade to the East and Decatur to the South. I've been to the NOLA French Quarter before and know how busy it gets around event nights. The streets I mentioned surrounding the french quarter are wide enough to bring a massive truck in. The spacing will be wide enough for the mounted police the city employs, or motorbikes where needed, but not enough for cars.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I hope you also will leave room for fire trucks

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fire departments need to quit insisting on buying the most massive trucks they can possibly find in every situation. Places outside the US get by just fine with much smaller fire trucks than we use (especially for lower density / low-rise areas). We've got to quit turning our residential streets into freeways by building them so wide, and the trucks' bulk and turning radius needs to stop being an excuse.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you build high buildings, you need more ladder as a rule of thumb. You can either have more stations, some with smaller gear, or you can economically consolidate.

These two fire trucks have pretty much the same ladder length, despite one truck being nearly twice as long:

The wheels are presumably similar sized by the way.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

At this point they're often doing more harm (in terms of wide streets with channelized intersections making pedestrians less safe from traffic) than good (in terms of providing truck access in the event of a fire), especially for stations serving single-family neighborhoods.

They need to pay the slight extra cost to have different kinds of appropriate equipment for different areas; it's worth it. It doesn't happen because the fire department isn't considering the traffic effects and nobody's really looking at the big picture.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Certainly, an event emergency plan would include one or two service entrances with the blocks placed slightly further apart.