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Started an argument with my much smarter wife because she said North and South America are not two separate continents. She was right, because continents are only defined by convention.

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This becomes even more confusing with the way people commonly talk in English versus Spanish. In English, residents of the United States of America typically refer to themselves as Americans, and in English “American” typically only refers to someone from the USA. In Spanish, it seems residents of the USA are typically called the equivalent of “United Stateser” and “American” refers more generally to someone from the continent, at least in some parts of the Spanish-speaking world. I once had an apparent native Spanish-speaker online argue that was the correct form in English as well and insisted that the official name of the country is United States (Estados Unidos), not United States of America (Estados Unidos de América), and that America never refers to the country in English. They didn’t appreciate when I asked why in international sporting events the Americans’ shirts always say USA and why the supporters chant “U-S-A” all the time.

Languages are weird. If you’re learning a different language and try to insist that the new language behave the same as your native language, you’re going to have a hard time.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Mostly right but nobody in Latinamerica refers to themselves as American in any language. It would be weird.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That one's a weird one. We don't explicitly call ourselves Americans in Spanish because there's no need to but whenever this comes up in conversation it's generally agreed upon that we are technically Americans (and then people immediately take the opportunity to dunk on USians for appropriating the word 😅).

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, that's my point. Being part of the continent is something that almost never comes up. We call ourselves whatever we are and it's never "Americanos".