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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As much as I think this is a great solution and should be written into law, the anti-ai crowd only asks it from one industry and it's a clear sign of bias.

Not to mention that the big companies are literally doing it, either building new nuclear plants or restarting old ones. They aren't the one holding green energy back, the oil cartel and their corrupt politicians are.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

One industry? People are so mad at AI because it's just another industry, a new one with massive environmental impact, and basically no real use outside of generating misinformation and stealing from artists. It's the absolute worst face of the tech sector, and totally deserving of all the hate it receives.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and basically no real use outside of generating misinformation and stealing from artists

This shows you think all AI are LLMs or generative art. Those are only the most visible faces of the tech, and you're showing your name ignorance of the field.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you want to talk about machine learning in general, that's a different conversation. Like it or not, colloquially, AI is LLMs and chatbots

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How exactly is the rest of AI a different conversation???? Were talking about the power requirements of running AI at scale and somehow you think it’s not only correct but implied that this convo should just be about colloquial parts AI and anything else is a totally different topic in regards to power consumption?

totally deserving of the hate it gets

Yeah so breakthroughs in chemistry and other sciences for example, deserving of hate eh?

Nothing good comes from AI… when all you know about AI is colloquial lmao

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

Here's an article from the IEEE about the issues with AI energy consumption. This article specifies that they're discussing the requirements of LLMs and new generative AI. The article we're commenting under wasn't that cut and dry about it, but a basic understanding of the context of the world should be all a reasonable person needs to figure that out

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Sorry, but you're just wrong. Every industry is not currently spinning up their own LLM. They ARE looking to incorporate AI into their work flows, causing huge demand for data centers.

This is Bloomberg, a business centered media site. They're not dealing with what the plebs colloquially mean.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

basically no real use

"The horse is here to stay, but the automobile is only a novelty — a fad.”

Also, will you get mad at the next new industry? I highly doubt it.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

If the next new industry is an energy hungry propaganda machine, yes I will

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People advocating for the 99 shitty technologies that die always seem to like to quote the people talking about the one technology that survived from past generations as if that somehow made criticism of the 99 others a bad call.

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ai is going nowhere mate, you're on the wrong side of this one. It's too broadly useful already and has too much potential in the future

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

The environmental movement asked the same thing for subsidized hydrogen production