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[–] sederx@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling all of these individuals “unwilling kids” because they might be religious is very belittling.

none of those people sat down and said " i want to become a christian". speaking about this like its a choice is really messed up, children dont have a choice.

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not sit down to be raised an atheist and yet here I am, raised as one without having had a choice. Parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit, within some parameters of course. And I think that is a good thing, I wouldn't want anyone to force me to raise my kids in a specific way. At a certain age teenagers are able to have their own thoughts though, and there are a lot of people that turn away from the beliefs of their parents. Others stay religious though and I think that is absolutely fine. I might not agree with a lot of what they believe in, but it also is just none of my business.

[–] sederx@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

children being abused with brainwashing is absolutely your business even if you dont understand it.

just because you managed to escape it doesnt mean the average child is able to. look around, they clearly are not.

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

children being abused with brainwashing is absolutely your business even if you dont understand it.

Being raised religiously is definitely not generally abuse, and I would say only a very small portion of it goes into abusive territory. Which, of course, yes should be everyones business.

just because you managed to escape it doesnt mean the average child is able to. look around, they clearly are not.

I did not escape anything, I am still an atheist. What I am saying is that it's not inherently better to "escape" religion than to keep believing. I would even oppose that framing of religion being something you need to escape.

[–] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would even oppose that framing of religion being something you need to escape.

give one positive.

sorry but you centrist people can really go to absurd places just to be right...

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

give one positive.

  1. Strong community bonding, most people are social animals that like being associated with a group
  2. Giving sense to charitable actions that they would otherwise not perform
  3. A general sense of security and comfort

As I said I myself am not religious. It doesn't work for me. But to just flat out deny that religion has benefits to people is blatantly dismissive of the things that make a lot of people happy.

sorry but you centrist people can really go to absurd places just to be right…

If we are going to get down to namecalling here you go: You libs can really go to absurd places just to prove that pure logic and rationality will make us prosper.