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U.S. CEOs and business executives are alarmed as Donald Trump remains firm on imposing high tariffs on U.S. allies, despite warnings from economists about potential economic harm.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump’s late-night social media announcements have blindsided both his advisers and business leaders, leaving them scrambling to react.

While Trump consults some advisers, like Marco Rubio and Treasury pick Scott Bessent, his unilateral approach limits their influence.

The uncertainty has left business leaders struggling to find ways to alter his stance on trade policies.

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[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Might be a bit of a contrarian take, but at this point I think Trump needs to have a gigantic fuck up to drive people to the streets in anger, South Korea style. One of those 'we need our medicine before we can get better' moments.

For some reason tens of millions of people buy his "'I'm the greatest - only I can save you - they're evil and stupid" rhetoric.

So it's going to take a truly epic fuck up that he can't bullshit his way out of - and that the media can't ignore - for people to finally see that him and his cronies are all gigantic pieces of shit.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He did have a gigantic fuck up. He fucked up the response to covid-19. Badly. And how much did his fuck up make the situation worse in the rest of the world?

74 million people still voted for him in 2020. During and immediately AFTER that fuck up.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but the alternative was voting for a woman, so...

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

A half black, half Indian woman, though!

It's going to take something monumental for the US to ever change- and even then I doubt it will. People seem 100% stupider than 15 years ago and some study just showed adult intelligence has dropped in multiple areas. I wonder if people infected with COVID literally got stupider on top of all the lead poisoning from pre-90's.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago

There wasn't a woman running in 2020.

[–] Brown5500@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago

January 6th has entered the chat...and quietly left unnoticed.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

His entire first administration was a series of such fuckups. I am not hopeful that consequences (for him) are ever coming.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago

I don't think that's possible, unfortunately. I'm pretty sure he knows he can get away with anything, and his stupid fans will still gladly follow him. He will put the blame on someone else, every time, and they will believe him, every time.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

South Korea wasn't in a cult for that leader AND what he asked for was essentially what... Something that equated to the build up to January 6th, without even a January 6th style failed coup attempt to show for it.

No, they did what we should have. We failed.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

South Korea values education. The Republican party has been destroying the public education system for decades.

So south Korea does not have as many braindead people as we have here

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

This is the whole issue. Republicans, a cult, can only exist in pretend political party form because they have convinced their base that literally--literally--anything that has a big ol REPUBLICAN label slapped on it is the highest moral good.

They see children getting murdered in cold blood in schools and take the side of the guns. I should probably repeat that four or five times with varying emphasis.

Trump could bomb an orphanage, brag about it, and within a week Fox Lies & Propaganda would be running stories about how the orphanage made a mistake on its taxes that was falsely flagged as fraud, and how orphans might become criminals.

It won't undo the current disaster, but the real path back is probably more like talking to one person who's trumpy but still somehow you kind of like anyway, with a tone of...come on now. Are we serious with this? You see this for what it is, right? You gotta put a stop to this, it can't go on. Or just plain old Lakoff advice about getting your racist grandpa to tell you a story at thanksgiving of a time he helped somebody. This is one step in restoring his brain to its unpoisoned-by-conservatism state.

You gotta attack the foundation of fascism and conservatism, which science seems to think you do with empathy.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

If this could have happened it would have happened during covid

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Trump accelerationism, lesgo