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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What shit timing for this... Imagine if this happened like a year ago. Maybe Democrats could have actually had a reason to be pushed to talk about this... Seeing how even Magoos were happy the guy got killed maybe things could have been different.

We live in the stupid timeline though so somehow this will just get worse :/

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago

1/3+ of the party wanted Bernie. Twice. And they couldn't be arsed to talk about it, his primary policy position. They're still not taking about it. Too much donor money involved for them to give a shit what their voters say.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Had a reason? They already had a reason. They had thousands of reasons. Thousands of Americans dying due to the shit industry. Is that not a reason enough for Democrats?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They always had the excuse of "people love their healthcare!" That's the line that was always trotted out. It would be pretty difficult to keep that line when we're literally executing healthcare CEOs and having a positive nationwide reaction to it.

If journalists would actually do their proper duty for the population and not their masters (lmao) they'd start pushing representatives on the topic as it relates to the response.

(Instead though we get articles like "Bad luck Brian was the working class hero, not Luigi" from the NYT. 🤮)

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Bernie's Medicare For All plan has been out there close to a decade now and I would argue that proposal is a huge part of his popularity. Democrats knew that and they told him, and by extension his supporters, to go fuck themselves. They know people want this but they don't care.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Dems killed off single-payer years ago. Obamacare was designed to be dogshit under their watch. Sorry friend, we both are in the sufferin'-timeline where the DNC never does anything but crush any chance at progressive policy that could "hurt" their rich donors

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

That not entirely accurate. Just a wander through the wiki on the history of the ACA shows what happened, both the efforts and roadblocks, the improvements to what was before, as well as the limited time frame.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't Obamacare really Romneycare with Democratic support? They compromised so much to get it through. Manchin and the like, the thorn in the Democratic party. But yeah, Berniecare would be much better, partly because I think he cares a lot more than a lot of politicians.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If i can find the article all about bullshit the Democrats' did to the ACA before it got signed I'll link it. Quite a bit more to it then compromising with Rs, they had a lot of Ds to 'convince'

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

they had a lot of 'Ds' to convince

Sadly, yes.