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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a load of wank. "Error in judgement"? What about their training, I thought they weren't supposed to use judgement? /s

Little child, broken femur, two hours; that's all we need to know. Come up with any hypothetical as to how this happened, and the answer is that it was the responsibility of staff and facility to have it in hand. They failed in that responsibility, staff and facility both. I'm only interested in the "why" and "how" in order to figure out how to prevent this happening again.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The hypothetical isn't hard, a culture where a guideline is given that children "acting out" isn't to be rewarded. In a case where a verbal child would be able to say "my leg hurts very badly", this child was unable to though, so a system that worked fine with previous children became unable to handle this particular circumstance. The only outward evidence that something is genuinely amiss becomes the crying. At what point then, does crying go from "potentially acting out" to "okay, this might be severe bodily damage"?

15 minutes? 30? An hour? This is where the misapplication of training comes in, and where a judgement call did become necessary, as I doubt any specific timetables were actually provided. Two hours is clearly too long, I think we can all agree on that. But staff at schools are usually undersupplied and understaffed, they are under stress and there are other duties that demand their time. This environment can lead to gross errors.

The "why" and "how" is exactly what I'm on as well, since the beginning. It's going to be more complicated than any sort of simple "wow, those people are really fucked up".

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx4in4UpdWE

This is the sound of a femur breaking. This video is 43 seconds. They ignored this for two hours.

No culture normalises ignoring this and when it happens children die and the parents or guardians are held accountable.

I'm done with this nonsense. That video made me feel sick, fuck you for arguing so strenuously in favour of understanding for the staff that just let this kid lay there like this. Really, fuck you. You ruined my whole morning with your inhuman bullshit.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

We don't know how the femur broke, I suspect it was likely a collision with something, otherwise it would have been noticed. You think the staff were knowingly neglecting a broken femur for the lulz or something, despite how very, very badly that would obviously end for them? I doubt it.

Sorry for upsetting you, but life isn't simple. We don't gain much from simply trying to identify some sort of bad guys and then blindly raging against them.