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No Batman Penguin worked. Just gotta find the right writer to do the story.
I think the penguin is really shaped by the characters and the mob context. Spideys rogues gallery doesn't have anything as gripping when spideys removed. Most of the characters also basically revolve around spider man so a story without him needs to find a way to fill the vacuum. Doc ock or lizard would basically just be boring science shows, goblin would be corporate action, or kraven would be nature doc. All of these are pretty boring.
Eh I think this is where creative storytelling comes into play. James Gunn managed to make a group of C Listers in Guardians of the Galaxy tell a really compelling trilogy. In fact, I’d bet GOTG’s success is the blueprint Sony is trying to do with these Spidey baddies.
I mean guardians of the galaxy is a very open concept. It's basically cowboys in space. You can build onto that pretty easily in the direction you wanna go. None of apideys villains really have that kinda open background you can build on top of. And if you tried more likely than not you'd just make something unrecognisable. Like mysterio for example could probably pass in a real mystical environment where he relies on fake illusions but the end result would probs just be wizard of Oz :/.
I kind of disagree. it was a good show, but absolutely felt like it could have been anything other crime drama. I didn't feel like there was any real point in making it about penguin.
I’d argue it was a great way to show the immediate effects of “The Batman”. What the trauma of the flooding did to the common people of Crown Point and the power vacuum created by the death of Carmine Falcone. It also setup Penguin’s rise to power which means he will likely play a significant role in the Batman Crime Saga’s future.
From a storytelling point of view, I can absolutely appreciate how the show organically grew the plot and setup Penguin’s roots into Gotham’s underworld.