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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] greengnu@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes in a scenario, which you are in a cold climate which it is always cold outside. Then yes, thermal energy storage would be an extremely efficient option.

It doesn't apply to most living humans but I grant you that special case.

yes, I did look at your link and noted all of sites are those near mountain ranges; which I certainly grant you is near (within 100 miles of) most human population centers.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes in a scenario, which you are in a cold climate which it is always cold outside. Then yes, thermal energy storage would be an extremely efficient option.

I'm not sure I follow why this is an edge case. Space heating indoor areas with surplus wind energy stored in september-november when it peaks is the absolute largest block of inflexible demand for >100 hour storage. With PCM or suitable risk management of high temp. sensible heat it represents the plurality of potential storage demand.

Batteries may still win due to flexibility and prevalence of solar, but I can't think of a better use case for thermal storage.

It's also probably the oldest storage tech by about 8000-100,000 years

[–] greengnu@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

heating is not done year around (365.25 days/year) for the majority of the world's population.

Hence why places which need heating year around are generally considered an edge case.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

(i edited above accidentally hit enter too soon)

Long duration storage isn't used year round. Charge with wind in autumn->don't burn stuff during jan/dec or dunkelflaute isn't an edge case, it's about 10% of all energy and the only real use case where renewables absolutely need LDES.