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Haha what if we apply more US bad to world events
No, seriously, that article is manipulative AF.
Oh it’s this article that is manipulative AF, and not the propaganda that we’ve been fed day in & day out our entire lives[1].
Both can be true
the US media empire is manipulative AF all around the world, so it can continue their blood campaign unbothered. i don't see libs batting an eye though.
matter of fact thats what they consider unbiased news for some reason.
The US abolished the claim of nonpartisan, unbiased media at least half a century ago.
is this generally understood by the general population? especially in the 3rd world countries they manipulate where the connections between local news and pupeteer empire don't look as close and/or are deliberately obscured...
No, of course not. Never was, nowhere is.
The wish for "unbiased news" grew from the aftermath of WWI, but didn't stick with the duopoly in the US.
that influence extends way past the us political system.
in a way that makes it look like the center unbiased position, when its in fact very manipulative.
Yeah, that's why we even care that the US has a duopoly.
This particular thread is largely about "that's what they consider unbiased news for some reason"
and i was talking about why it is.
and maybe why explicitly anti-imperialist and anti-us media might sound manipulative to people used to imperialism being the center and not the right. we do need the proper us bad that has been lacking.
That never existed
Not even the claim was on the books
Why do you believe the US Empire does what it does?
Because they are the good guys! The government and president and CIA and military and media and corpos said that! So what else can do a person from nominally anarchist community than just believe them and stand at the same side as, check notes... Al Qaeda, Netanyahu and Erdogan, true beacons of freedom.
It must be very easy to avoid grappling with real problems you benefit from if they paint Leftist thinking as "US bad."
There are no beacons of freedom in Syria.
Amalgamating Al-Qaeda, IDF, TSK into a coherent side is wild. HTS and SNA may have occupied populated Syria, but given the IDF's air strikes and the continued pressure of TSK directly and through SNA indirectly against SDF, this war seems far from over.
The fall of Assad does not endorse HTS. It simply is.
Opportunity.
My point is, Syria is not played by various US actors alone, there are at least five countries involved with very different goals and ways of doing things.
Sure, and US interests won out. Hooray for the US Empire continuing to get exactly what it wants.
Well, people like Assad are not exactly a good rallying cry for an opposition.
You're so right, turning Syria into something like Libya with open slave markets is far better for the people living there.
Just one more coup bro I promise just one more coup and it'll fix everything bro please bro just one more coup this is the one that will work out well bro please
So facilitating a genocide on top of all the wars, coups and meddling is the US being good?
Then you would have a more correct understanding of geopolitics.
I have no idea what that means
Information density and transmission is polluted by the fears of not being convincing enough and not sounding radical enough.
(IMO this can result from cynicism and sociopolitical isolation.)
Sure, but this does not explain why Assad, North Korea or Putin are good enough for an opposition or even the seed of that.
It is just rhetoric on Johnstone's website. It is a position piece. In what way are you being manipulated? This is actually more honest and direct than the faux-objectivity of typical articles.
It is unclear to me why you are quoting and arguing with that. Do you think I am Johnstone?