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The current news has me thinking that, while the death of any human is not something I actively relish, most people feel a certain satisfaction, relief or, at least, less sad when someone like Osama Bin Laden dies, because they were responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people.

Which got me wondering, have studies been done estimating how many legitimate insurance cases are rejected, delayed or otherwise mishandled, and how many of those result in deaths? I guess other industries are also responsible for some pretty measurable risk factors (e.g. air pollution). It would interesting to see some rough numbers of how many deaths the CEOs who choose to continue running these companies in harmful ways account for. Obviously, they are only indirectly responsible, but the same could be said about Bin Laden, he didn't fly the planes himself, he delegated.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I have no idea how to answer your question, I just want to point out something you hinted at, intentionally or not: The UHC CEO and other ghouls like him have killed more Americans than Bin Laden could ever dream of. Hell, I think even Adolf would be impressed.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

These companies are the death ~~(lost the word, “courts”?)~~ panels* that the Republicans cried fake outrage about when Democrats pushed the Affordable Care Act.

Edit: thank you @DisguisedJoker@lemmy.world and @neidu3@sh.itjust.works

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

"Death panels". Yeah, I remember when that was the talking point some 15 years ago and I wondered how that didn't apply to insurance companies. It made me glad I lived in Glen Becks definition of "socialist hellscape" - Scandinavia.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

It’s bonkers, too, with how much we know and knew pharmaceutical companies were and are doing the same thing. Look at the price gouging for insulin! Look at the opioid industry and pandemic! But, just like those, the oil, cigarette, and even alcohol industries… they’re protected. It’s ok if it’s capitalism! Up until someone finally brings out the guillotine for a CEO.

Every old person was terrified of the government determining who would live or die. So instead they decided to keep paying for the privilege of letting a for-profit insurance company to do the same thing instead

[–] DisguisedJoker@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I think the term you're looking for is "death panels ".

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but these ones are for-profit, see?

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago

They are killing people on an industrial scale