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[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

And then there is the kinds of people who cry about Signal dropping support for SMS.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm one of em. I'm well aware it's not secure, but as a frontend, signal certainly was more customizable and pleasant to use even for just the few people I had to sms till I could convince to use signal.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was so much easier to convince people to use Signal when it had SMS support. I think while Signal needed to drop it, it wasn't the time yet.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced it ever should've. Make it obvious sms mode is in use, etc etc. But it was great to have everything in one place. One blocklist, great photo editing etc

[–] warm@kbin.earth 4 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe. For me the worst change they made was removing custom colours for my contacts.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree that it helped with adoption. In a way I wish they still had it so I could get my text messaging family to use a messaging app instead.

The flip side was, if somebody tried signal and didn't like it and uninstalled it, then any SMS message to them from signal went to their signal account that they no longer had installed so they didn't get it. You had no way of knowing so it really sucked.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yeah, I'd forgotten about that.

I'm certain the engineering team considered it, but I wonder why they didn't pursue having accounts that haven't signed in for a while issue a notice to the sender, or even have the account deactivate itself.

Make an opt-out default, you could disable that behaviour if your threat model needed to account for that 🤷

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How are you going to grow the user base without including the normies?

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am one of those. I ditched Signal and went back to the stock sms app and adopted matrix. Haven't looked back since. The reality is that Signal dropping support for sms wasn't going to stop me from using SMS. For that, other people need to be convinced to stop using it at the same time. Signal didn't have nearly the market size needed to make that happen. And now that card is played, and nothing has changed. Signal is just another messaging app among hundreds. At least matrix offers a real paradigm shift.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

That’s kind of like if iMessage dropped SMS support. Yeah, I know if it’s a green bubble it’s not encrypted. But I wouldn’t want them to just not allow it.