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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s a valid claim, IMO. The libs leaving Twitter all seem to be VERY into Orwellian practices like “official block lists” and other absurd self-owns.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I assure you that official blocklists are a very fringe viewpoint.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So fringe that BlueSky officially lists the most blocked accounts on BLueSky IN THEIR API: https://vqv.app/

So fringe that millions of people subscribe to them.

So fringe that over 1700 people upvoted this list on Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueskySocial/comments/1gtqtd3/and_remember_you_can_block_all_magarelated/

[–] dingdongmetacarples@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Talk about blaming the victim. I'd challenge you to create an account and put that you're trans in the profile. See how long it takes to get death threats. There is a reason for these block lists. Maybe people don't want to get harassed every time they post something.

Also, where is the "most blocked accounts" list in that link?

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 11 points 3 weeks ago

That’s a great point that I honestly hadn’t considered.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That people create blocklists that become popular absolutely does not prove endorsement of a potential official blocklist. While an official, default blocklist may be Orwellian, unofficial opt-in blocklists that require searching for are not Orwellian at all. One knows they're there, one chooses to block them. Your line of reasoning leads to arguing against the block feature entirely. And what's wrong with providing transparent statistics?

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 11 points 3 weeks ago

All totally valid points. I just so happen to disagree with API official ban lists.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Group efforts to root out fascism or other malcontents is hardly "Orwellian"....

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Group efforts to root out fascism or other malcontents

You can read those words, right? Who decides what is and isn't fascism? Who decides who is the malcontents in society? See what I mean?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fascism has a very clear definition. And who decides the malcontents? That's also easy: Are you trying to harm people? Then you are a malcontent.

You are attempting to obfuscate the discussion here. We all know what fascism is. We also all know its wrong to hurt people.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can barely detect your own biases! Have a great day. Continue with the fascist bullshit pretending you are ordained from some higher power.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing in there contradicts what I said here... There's not fascist about preventing fascism from taking root. You're making the same mistake made in "On Authority", and calling revolutions where the people cast off their chains of oppression as "Authoritarian"...