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the moratorium on US presidential election posts has ended; you are now free to post about the subject again (beehaw.org)

submitted 3 weeks ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

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sufficient time has passed for takes on this subject to actually be informed by more than snap judgements, ideological impulses, and ill-advised guesstimates. also, virtually all votes have now been counted. if you'd like to post about your theories of what went wrong and why, you should now have the data to argue it without things just being a total clusterfuck. thank you for your compliance

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 10 points 3 weeks ago

Kamala ran a weak campaign. She shouldn't have bragged about expanding oil production and she shouldn't have supported fracking.

But she was making home ownership easier with her first home subsidy, which reduces demand for rentals and reduces rents. And her government invested a billion dollars into renewables.

People refused to vote for Harris, because they said Harris wouldn't fundamentally change anything. Harris's campaign slogan was "we can't go back", but voters didn't believe her. They wanted change.

Donald Trump promised change and he got the votes.

The non voters who said they wanted change got what they asked for. Now they live in a fascist dictatorship.

Some people think blame is a limited resource. It's not. Three groups are to blame for the election result:

The DNC including Harris who didn't change enough.
The people who voted for Trump or who didn't vote at all because they wanted change.
The people who voted for Harris, but spent all their free time spreading anti-Harris propaganda. Words have consequences. The non-voters didn't decide Harris was bad on their own. Somebody told them so.