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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

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[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And some people will always want a headphone jack... oh wait...

[–] zzz@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference with wireless listening vs. charging is that the former doesn’t need close to 2x the power of the cable-bound method and doesn’t destroy the phone’s battery in the process, unlike the latter

[–] Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wireless listening absolutely needs more than 2x the power of wired listening. It also needs charging an entire other device. You're right that it doesn't affect the phone battery, though I don't think wireless charging "destroys" it.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It warms it up, and you're not going to get the absolute maximum battery life out of it if you're wireless, but the impact usually isn't that big, unless you're really cooking it. Using the standard fast charger that comes with your phone is probably going to put about as much, if not more wear than a. 10W wireless charger.

You're not meant to wirelessly charge it by sticking it in the microwave.

Wireless listening absolutely needs more than 2x the power of wired listening. It also needs charging an entire other device

It might be more than that. A wired headset is incredibly simple, unless you're running a ridiculous amplifier through it. It's just two speakers, maybe a microphone and button if it's a mobile headset.

By comparison, wireless listening would usually need the audio encoder/decoder chips, the Bluetooth receiver/transmitter, the processors for the pairing/controls/noise cancellation, and the speakers on top of that. That's not a small amount of componentry.

[–] zzz@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I’ve tried using wireless charging in a friend’s car on my iPhone SE a few weeks back.

Result: notification that charging had (!) to be stopped at around 50% due to overheating and was poised to continue once the iPhone had cooled down sufficiently. It never continued as that was all I needed to know about the current state of wireless charging with light usage on the side.

Good point on the wireless listening and ear pieces needing a battery as well, though. I guess with those it comes down to convenience for most buyers.

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't imagine Europe wouldn't lose their shit if Apple removed it entirely. And if Android manufacturers did that consumers would also promptly lose their shit.

Beyond the consumer, having a physical port is beneficial to Apple. Businesses use attached devices (e.g. barcode scanners, DSLR camera attachments, charging stations) all the time. It's more common on Android phones, but I do see iPhones using these sorts of things. My local movie theater uses iPhones to scan tickets with an attached Lightning scanner, for example.

I don't disagree that wireless charging is more convenient, but from the standpoint of being in emergency situations where a cable is needed to charge your phone, it wouldn't be easily possible if the port is removed. People might carry around charging bricks, and while wireless charging bricks do exist they're not commonplace and they're certainly slower than charging by wire. I can tell you nobody will want to carry around a portable wireless charger, although MagSafe is almost already just that.

Playing devil's advocate, it's possible Apple does want things like portable wireless chargers to proliferate, like the one you can buy that slap onto the back of your phone. It means you're buying more of their shit, which is something they seem to love so much. It would mean you're buying MagSafe chargers or whatever proprietary crap they manufacture. I still do see it becoming an issue in emergency situations though, e.g. teens (a large user base of iPhones) use their phones a lot and borrow chargers from each other all the time.

Impossible? No. Unlikely? Yes, for now.

[–] roembol@lemmy.roembol.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They might adopt something like pogo pins for physical connections, similar to the ipads

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have an example of this?

[–] roembol@lemmy.roembol.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, as I said, the smart connector on the ipad. It is used to connect the keyboard if I'm not mistaken.

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ah I forgot about the keyboard attachments