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There are large parts of the world where the big use of water is to grow food for cows. A decision to eat less beef instead of killing people is possible.
The population at large will never voluntarily choose to stop eating meat. Beef will just become prohibitively expensive, and the government will give more and more subsidies to try to reduce the cost of hamburgers until the market collapses and they blame immigrants/lgbtq+/atheists/whichever scapegoat is most convenient at the time.
That’s not true, people would give up meat if they have to especially upon hearing it’s effects.
They'll give it up if they have to, yes, but that's because they have to. The tobacco industry is still doing $100 billion each year, and they print death threats on the packages. People who know meat is bad for the environment still eat it. People are stupid, lazy, and panicky. You won't reduce the damage at the grassroots level. You have to win elections, frame the debate, and set policies. Anything less is pissing on a forest fire. You're just going to singe your pubes.
Systematic change always starts from the grassroots level.
Of course it does, by doing what I said. It's the only way anything ever changes. Win some elections, frame the debate, pass legislation. That's how it always works, and it never works any other way (without violence).
There has never been a movement that built up so much grassroots support that everyone just unanimously agreed to go along with it.
...And that's why I've set up this toll on The Meat Bridge
name one case when that happened
in the same way they are decisively acting to combat the climate change, they are voluntarily giving up their comfort, their cars, and so on... right? 😂
The main countries that eat beef are the ones with a history of killing people for far less than trying to take away their beef.